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To: Bill Ulrich who wrote (98894)	5/23/2003 6:30:32 AM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 281500

Powell Says to the French, Yes . . . but Not All Is Forgiven By JAMES DAO - NEW YORK TIMES Doncha love Powell when he gets tough? We are not going to the French Air Show either. Latest polls show a drop in this country of our pro French attitude from 70% to 30%. And a drop in French sales here. PARIS, May 22 - Sending a mixed message to the French on his first visit here since before the war in Iraq, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell said today that France's support for lifting United Nations sanctions against Iraq was "a step in the right direction," but cautioned that "the disagreements of the past" have not been forgotten. Mr. Powell, who is in Paris for meetings of foreign ministers from the major industrial countries and Russia, insisted that the Bush administration did not plan to punish France for its bitter dispute with the United States over invading Iraq. But he said the Pentagon was reviewing its plans for joint military exercises with France and other countries "in light of the changed circumstances," and acknowledged that the French would not be invited to an Air Force exercise in Nevada next year known as Red Flag. Referring to France's yes vote in the United Nations today on a resolution to lift sanctions on Iraq, Mr. Powell said: "Does it mean that the disagreements of the past simply are totally forgotten? No. That was not a very pleasant time for any of us, and we have to work our way through that." REST AT:http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/23/international/worldspecial/23PARI.html?pagewanted=print&position=

To: Bill Ulrich who wrote (98894)	5/23/2003 7:36:43 AM
From: thames_sider	Respond to of 281500

Non-viable seed has always been a given trade-off for increased yields and resistance. Cetainly there's a trade-off, but hitherto it's been possible for people to breed and grow their own crop. Possibly (in 3rd world rather than 1st) the real issue is over the patenting of seed, which means that others can no longer grow their own strains. Also, one major complaint here a year or two ago (there were big GM debates) was that farmers were very worried about being locked-in to one supplier who would then have monopoly control over them, and would be able to raise prices at will (since, with the patent, there could be no alternative).