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To: thames_sider who wrote (98916)	5/23/2003 11:29:10 AM
From: aladin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Thames, This includes the following quote from the Iraqi doctor: "He was shocked when I told him the real story. That's when I realized this rescue probably didn't happen for propaganda reasons. I think this American army is just such a huge machine, the left hand never knows what the right hand is doing." Now at the time of the rescue, Nasirya was not under US control and there was no expectation that the hospital was secure. Is it possible that the lawyer and his wife who informed US forces of her location took advantage of the situation? Absolutely. It it possible that this story is true and that US forces are embarrassed by it? Absolutely. But is it possible that the medical staff are covering their own reputations? Also possible. Beyond Jessica - what about the lawyer and his wife (who worked in the hospital), what do they say? John

To: thames_sider who wrote (98916)	5/23/2003 1:09:53 PM
From: bela_ghoulashi	Respond to of 281500

Frankly I would rather see our military planners overdo it and pull off a Jessica Lynch than underdo it and find themselves in the middle of another Mogadishu. I totally reject the idea that anyone, on the ground, back at Qatar, or especially in the White House...which is what this particular bit of trash is really all about...could have definitively known enough about the situation in the town or the hospital to conclude that simply driving in an ambulance to "fetch her" would not have ended in a bloody fiasco, resulting in more American bodies on top of the ones they found there. They did the right thing. You've just come home. Your house is on fire. Your grandmother might be inside. You don't want those "hot dogs" in the firetrucks to just casually assume she's safe down at the Elk's club playing bingo. Maybe she is. But do you think there's really enough time for them to sit down with your copy of her daily planner to try to figure it out? Maybe you hate the city councilmen and now with pictures on the news they're going to take credit for buying the shiny new firetruck with the nifty ladder and all that, when you think they should have invested the money in a new Panda bear for the zoo instead, but...the damn house is on fire and it's burning fast and you don't really know what the hell's going on, you just want those hot dogs to try and save your grandmother. That's what happened. Everything after the fact is second guessing in comfort, safety, and 100% reliable and certain knowledge of the outcome.