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To: JohnM who wrote (98933)	5/23/2003 12:57:41 PM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Your comments about LBJ are correct, but no longer relevant. There was a shift in how Americans thought about war and aggression after the 1960s caused primarily by the anti-war movement and by the cultural revolution the '60s brought forth. The Dems accurately sensed these attitudes then--this ended with Carter. Clinton was seen as someone who had one foot in the 60s and another in the present; he was successful for that reason. For whatever reason, the Dems have permanently identified themselves with this no longer relevant shift in American culture and attitudes, which was in the spirit of the times, but have refused to capture the essence of the present. But like Mr. Zimmerman has said, the times they are a-changin' but not for the better. Unfortunately, the Dems have refused to detect this shift in attitudes. Even a canny guy like Clinton didn't get it. I took 9/11 to bring to the forefront how radically the world has developed since Vietnam and the 60s. Dem attitudes simply have failed to capture this seismic shift. Find a Dem leader who is strong on terror, pro-military, and things will change. Unfortunately, such a leader is an anathema to the prevailing Dem leadership. He might as well be a Republican and enjoy the political fruits of, dare I say it, September 11. LBJ's civil rights programs had nothing to do with the present downfall of the Dems. You won't find many Republicans who actively oppose the legislation and would have it set aside. Quibble with the details, yes, but no arguments on the broad points. The political dynamic LBJ identified is exhausted. Ironically, it does provide a venting mechanism for those Dems who instead of changing with the times point to some time-worn issue with no present relevance but which does conveniently paint the GOP as racist. Unfortunately, there are precious few votes to be found in pursuing this essentially Sharptonish tactic. You really do need to read Linda Brazeale's comments. Daschle and his ilk have done a marvelous job of subjecting the Democratic Party to political hara kiri. C2@gratefulforthehelp,Tom.com