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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (98934)	5/24/2003 2:54:25 PM
From: Noel de Leon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Round Up has been found in ground water in Denmark, a country that depends on ground water for its supply of potable water. Equally important is that stream water on the island of Fynen contains Round Up in the winter which poses a serious question as to the validity of the explanation that Round Up in streams is caused by wind borne mechanisms. The danish reference is:http://www.ecocouncil.dk/arkiv/2000/001226_roundup.html

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (98934)	5/29/2003 4:54:39 AM
From: thames_sider	Respond to of 281500

This is probably <ot> here, so I'll drop it after this late response... My qualms are not related to its byproducts or breaking down, I never said or implied that they were: that's an entirely different matter, and I didn't think that glyphosate was particularly longlasting anyhow. RoundUp itself I chose as one pesticide prominently linked to GM foods. Nothing in your links addresses the reason for my caution, the reason at the top of your post. Are artificially added genes are more labile? Therefore, what if their increased use and transferability results in pests becoming immune to common pesticides (more readily than they would to a non-GM-reliant product, that is)? We'll have more problems than now - greatly more if we've grown dependent on a few big strains, and no longer have substantial other strains (partly because of sterile seeeds, patenting, etc...). As your bolded link notes: Glyphosphate kills plants like antibiotics kill bacteria. And you have never heard of MRSA? Not noted that many antibiotics are losing effectiveness precisely because of their over-use in agriculture? Prevalence of the agent, at sublethal levels, causes the evolution of resistant bacteria. <edit> as this, from later here... Message 18981765