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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (99086)	5/25/2003 7:31:41 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

>>You may not see the equivalence.<< No, I don't see anybody in America who is equivalent to Arafat, or Saddam, or Mullah Omar. They are thugs. They rule by thugocracy. They also rule by kleptocracy. They destroy life without giving anything of value in return. Once upon a time kings in the west also ruled by thugocracy and kleptocracy, but eventually the people were able to force them to accept constitutional democracy in one way or another. Back in the times when kings and emperors ruled by thugocracy and kleptocracy, they weren't as respectful of each other's persons as you seem to think, but I take it that you aren't really into history. Most pre-med students aren't -- they study chemistry, math, biology and physics, stuff that will help them get into med school. Pick up any general history book and read for a while, and you'll read about wars and assassinations and coups. Throughout history. It's never ending. The only way out is to install constitutional democracies, so that people can take power through peaceful means, and leave without violence when their time has come. Saddam already tried to kill one of our ex-presidents - Dubya's father, mother, brother and wife, in the early 1990's. You seem to have forgotten that. And Mullah Omar and Osama bin Laden aimed a jumbo-jet at the White House, but it went down in Pennsylvania due to the bravery of the passengers. You don't seem to recall that. I don't recall any circumstance where Khaddafi tried to kill a president but he definitely killed a lot of Americans. Arafat has, too. He's killed Americans, as well as Israelis. The Israelis say - and this is what bothers me - that there will never be peace as long as Arafat is in power - but they keep building settlements - and everybody knows, as Nadine admits, that it will be almost impossible to remove the settlements. Why can't the Palestinians accept the settlements? For the same reason the Israelis can't accept the Right of Return. It's a small country and neither is willing to give an inch. So Arafat remaining in power is rather convenient. Sure, a few Jews die, but most of them are in the settlements. Removing them from the settlements is going to kill some Jews, too, because those people won't go willingly. If ever. I expect that this will never be resolved. It's been going on my entire life, and yours, too. Neither side will ever give an inch.