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To: steve dietrich who wrote (409711)5/28/2003 12:25:01 AM
From: Jerrel Peters  Respond to of 769670
 
The stores on board sold out of cameras and film. Yep, they were upset.



To: steve dietrich who wrote (409711)5/28/2003 12:34:24 AM
From: jim-thompson  Respond to of 769670
 
Quite obvious you have never been in the military. With the exception of when Willy and Jimmy were the Commander-in-Chief, 99.9% of our military personnel would be very proud to meet their Commander-in-Chief.

Its just like a parade for a departing Commanding General. The troops do some griping, but gosh they love it. They know they played a part in this general getting a promotion or helping this general accomplish the misison........

Oh by the way, if you were in the military I bet you were the guy who used to watch the guys pea in the bottle during drug testing times.... ROFL



To: steve dietrich who wrote (409711)5/28/2003 12:38:35 AM
From: Jerrel Peters  Respond to of 769670
 
It was 1994 and Yale and I were covering the ceremonies commemorating the fiftieth anniversary of the Normandy landings. We were standing with a group of veterans and their wives on the bluff overlooking Omaha Beach, where they had come ashore on that historic morning at what cost only they could really know. All of them had visited the military cemetery where so many of their buddies lay, and all of them were deeply moved by the day and by the memories it brought to the surface.

As we stood there some of the Clinton advance crew, the public relations arm of the administration, came along and asked the veterans to move off. These were the men, some walking with canes, a couple in wheelchairs piloted by wives or children, many feeble, in whose honor we were supposed to be there. But there was another agenda for the White House staff.

The veterans never understood why they’d been moved away, but as accredited correspondents we were allowed—no, encouraged—to stay there, along with press photographers and reporters. And what we witnessed was a couple of White House aides surveying the beach, looking around to find something, then picking up some stones, studying them and finally choosing one which they placed with care at a strategic spot near the shoreline. Moments later President Clinton arrived, was escorted to the spot, and as the entourage stepped back out of camera view, he looked around at the scene and then down at his feet where he seemed to spy something—yes, a stone—which he picked up, looked at and then held in his grasp as he bit his lip and let a tear dampen his cheek. Deeply moved, you see.

There was some grumbling among the more assertive of the veterans who had been shunted away from the important action, but the pictures in the French press of Bill Clinton spontaneously picking up a stone on Omaha Beach and then staring out at the sea as he teared up and bit his lip were very effective.

Funny, though. The New York Times never described the scene or the staging by the keepers of the Clinton image. Probably just an oversight. They had their hands full exposing the vast right-wing conspiracy that was out to get him.

doctor-horsefeathers.com



To: steve dietrich who wrote (409711)5/28/2003 1:10:52 AM
From: jim-thompson  Respond to of 769670
 
Here is something for you to chew on:

With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
For the story behind the story...

Saturday April 3, 7:55 PM

Clinton's Predictable Balkan Disaster

What do you get when you combine an opportune foreign policy crisis with an impeached, lame-duck president whose lifelong history betrays an utter contempt for the U.S. military? How about the Iranian hostage crisis, the Cuban missile crisis and Vietnam all rolled into one.

In just 10 days of active presidential involvement, that's the magnitude of Bill Clinton's Balkan disaster.

Serbia's threats to put three captured American GIs on trial signals that the hostage drama has just begun. From here on out, every NATO move could put them in jeopardy. Friday night's cruise missile attack on Belgrade's Interior Ministry must have been nerve-racking for their families.

But the hostages aren't the only ones now in harm's way. As Belgrade burned, Serbia's ethnic cleanser Arkan issued a none-too-subtle threat of revenge: "I know where your Pentagon and White House are," the killer told CNBC's Brian Williams Friday night.

Developments at sea are no more encouraging, with the nuclear-equipped Russian fleet steaming into the Mediterranean on behalf of their old Serbian ally. If push comes to shove, will Clinton be as lucky as JFK during 1962's showdown with Khrushchev?

Meanwhile, reports indicate that NATO has settled on a plan of "gradual escalation," the very same strategy that led to America's Vietnam quagmire.

How did all this happen in less than two weeks of Clinton at War? Col. Eugene Holmes no doubt knows, since he tried to warn America about the dangers Clinton posed back in 1992.

The president's December 1969 letter to Col. Holmes, in which the then-draft-dodging Rhodes scholar expressed a loathing for the military, has been well publicized.

But the press gave no attention to Holmes' own 1992 letter to the nation, written and released to the media in September 1992 after Clinton claimed nobody familiar with his brush with the draft was still alive.

Just two months before Clinton's election, Holmes warned America of the "tremendous implications" of having a draft dodger as president, suggesting that information in the 1969 letter alone "would have restricted Bill Clinton from ever qualifying to be an officer in the United States Military."

The Bataan Death March veteran concluded, "It is untenable and incomprehensible to me that a man who was not merely unwilling to serve his country, but actually protested against its military, should ever be in the position of Commander-in-Chief of our Armed Forces."

Holmes has since been vindicated in spades -- with incident after incident confirming Clinton's disdain for the soldiers he commands.

In 1993, then-Lt. Gen. Barry McCaffrey was told by a Clinton staffer to avoid wearing his military best when he came to the White House because "uniforms make the Clintons nervous."

That same year, Hillary hosted a White House soiree featuring elite Marine officers who were on hand to answer any defense questions the guests might have had. But the servant staff was shorthanded that night, and the first lady decided the Marines could best serve their country by serving hors d'ouvres to the partygoers. The Marines complied but were later said to have been privately outraged.

In 1994, Clinton invited parents of the 19 GIs killed in his Somalia debacle to the White House. After he sheepishly tried to gloss over his administration's responsibility, the president offered his hand to several parents in a "let bygones be bygones" gesture. One offended father refused to shake it, telling the president he was unfit for office.

More recently, we've learned about the episode where Clinton had Monica Lewinsky fellate him while he called Rep. Sonny Callahan to urge support for his Bosnian troop deployment.

Then there's January's World Net Daily report revealing that the president regularly had Marine officers chauffeur Lewinsky to her "dates" with him -- shades of Clinton's previous alleged misuse of his Arkansas state trooper security detail.

Col. Holmes was the prophet America ignored at her peril -- largely thanks to the media's deliberate failure to report his warning. After Holmes' 1992 statement, he said he'd never speak out on the issue again, a promise he kept when Inside Cover reached him at his Fayetteville, Ark., home last week.

The old soldier Clinton conned to beat the draft undoubtedly realizes that the bruised faces of American GI hostages speak louder than any words he could possibly offer.

newsmax.com



To: steve dietrich who wrote (409711)5/28/2003 8:38:35 AM
From: PROLIFE  Respond to of 769670
 
you would have been sitting in your bunk alone having your own little pity party, because these sailors look like they were having a good time:

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