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To: The Philosopher who wrote (769)	5/29/2003 12:29:31 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1112

"If you accept creationism in any form, then you are saying that life had existence before creation. If you accept the concept of evolution, then you are saying that life had existence before the big bang. Am I correct about these?" Yes. You have correctly interpreted my POV. Most people believe that it is an either or proposition (creation or evolution). Some people believe the two are complementary explanations of the same beginnings. In either case they purport to explain the very initial thing. Everyone who holds one of these views gets stuck on the cause/effect dilemma. What was before the before? What is beyond the furthest or innerest beyond. Most people agree that there are temporal limits but struggle with the consept of those limits. The answer lies beyond the question. You cannot use temporal rules (which limit you to the cause/effect relations of limited and temporary things) to explain what is beyond the temporal limitations.