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To: JohnM who wrote (99537)	5/30/2003 12:17:22 PM
From: John Carragher	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

we may only be in the fifth inning on wmd... this still has to play out. remember the building in Powell presentation. and decontamination truck along side the building... Powell stated it was a wmd factory.... He gave to un inspectors and two or three weeks later they came back and no wmd.... In the meantime the facility had been cleaned , maybe, roads and appearances that any activity was going on changed to make it look like an abandoned warehouse or factory... I believe he showed pictures of before , and later after when they change the whole landscape around the facility. We have these Iraq's in the top 55 wanted being question.. I haven't heard a word of what they may or may not be getting from them..."If something doesn't pop soon, they will be throwing bodies overboard." I will hang on awhile longer before trying to find our intelligence a complete failure.

To: JohnM who wrote (99537)	5/30/2003 3:50:26 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

My understanding all along was not that attack was imminent, but that the situation was volatile, which is not the same thing. The reason they could not wait was that Saddam would not comply without threats, and was obviously intending to drag matters out indefinitely. This put in question several things: the resolve to sustain a costly deployment indefinitely; the possibility of Saddam using terrorist agents to drive out American forces in the region; the ability to wage battle in the summer months, if it came to that; the effect of pressure from the Saudis to leave; and so forth. The Administration basically said, why give him all the time in the world, when he is in material violation, and seems unwilling to amend his behavior? I never got anything else out of the footage your refer to. If the intelligence were not up to the minute, it was old. That is, if it took months to accumulate and verify, it did not necessarily reflect facts on the ground, given Saddam's propensity to hide things. The argument that it was moved is the argument of the Administration, actually. The controverted parts have to do with what became of it, for example, was it spilled onto the desert at the last minute, sent to Syria, stockpiled in bunkers, or what? Of course it was only advanced once they had trouble finding things. That does not affect its reasonability as an explanation. We will have to wait to see what comes of the matter........