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To: Brian Sullivan who wrote (99563)	5/30/2003 4:02:42 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Well, it's a matter of degree, here. I expect every politician to put himself in the best possible light, emphasize his strong points, minimize/spin the bad things, look hard for evidence to back up his beliefs. But, at some point, a line is crossed. At some point, some level of honesty has to be enforced. At some point, spin becomes lies. For me, Clinton crossed that line, when he lied to a Grand Jury. And Bush2 crossed the line, when he said: "If we know Saddam Hussein has dangerous weapons today -- and we do -- does it make any sense for the world to wait to confront him as he grows even stronger and develops even more dangerous weapons?…" 11/7/02 whitehouse.gov He said he knew. He said we couldn't wait. This is not spin. This is a lie. <These issues only matter if the average American believe that their President is a crook.> So, you're saying that public opinion polls/elections are the ultimate arbiters of morality? It's not a sin, it's acceptable behavior, if 50% plus one of the American people say so? Standards of behavior are relative, flexible, dependant on the particular time and place, and can change with the public whim? There are no Absolute Standards? I seem to recall the NeoCons, the Bible-thumpers and Bennett, the impeachers of Clinton, and Bush too, saying something very, very different. But they were talking about other people's sins, then, so I guess it's different.