To: Stock Farmer  who wrote (129447 ) 6/1/2003 6:39:43 PM From: Maurice Winn     Read Replies (2)  | Respond to    of 152472  John, re <It gets smaller and lighter and cheaper and faster, until further evolution is irrelevant. At full investment rate, it moves by factor two every 18 months or so. Bet against that and you are bound to lose.  Keep arguing about today if you like. But you are paying for a stock priced for performance a decade from now. If investment continues to pour into 4G technologies, then they will improve through four iterations of Moore's law. Factor 100 better than the best we can achieve today. > I've been betting with that since 1989 when I started looking for a company to do CDMA, which I didn't then know would be called CDMA, but would involve fast decoding at the handset, of jumbled phragmented photons. I first hunted down OFDM in the latish 1990s while on the lookout for competitors.  You look at the same facts as me and come up with different conclusions.  I have been wanting faster Moore's Law action to turbocharge CDMA technology and you seem to think the same process is bad for QUALCOMM.  OFDM gives more efficient spectrum use in mobile cyberspace, but more for data than voice.  The improvement in efficiency isn't great and the cost of spectrum per minute of voice is already so low with CDMA that it is more valuable to use more spectrum to improve voice quality [you'll recall that they were originally trying to do voice with 8 kbps and went to 13 kbps - almost doubling the spectrum gobbling process]. As the cost of electronic gizzards comes down, [by a large chunk with the radioOne step], it'll be economic to do a lot more with CDMA.  Base stations can be packed in closer.  The spectrum advantage of OFDM won't be a big deal.   That's the same process by which GSM impressively held back the CDMA tide.  They did more and more and squeezed more and more into their handsets and spectrum.  They delayed CDMA's inroads by about 3 or 4 years.   CDMA has a much bigger advantage over TDMA methods such as GSM than OFDM has over CDMA.   It seems to me that as OFDM makes gains, [such as in 802.11b and 802.11g, or Flarion's technology], it'll be a matter of having both in a subscriber device.  A little like we have both ears and eyes running in our own central processors.  We even throw in touch and taste to widen our sensory experience and have no trouble fitting them into the same central processing bundle.   While some blind or deaf people claim that they don't want to experience the other senses, preferring their world as it is, having lived their lives like that and knowing that adding the other sense can be very confusing and disorienting, [a bit like adding a $billion to a person's bank account can be very disruptive to their psychic well-being though it seems to be obvious that we all want a $billion - remember the Sudden Wealth Syndrome and the problems it brought, though the subsequent Sudden Poverty Syndrome was worse], most of would quite like to have eyes, ears, touch, taste, $1billion and why not throw in the 21st century ability to sense radio frequency too?  I hope that rambling sentence isn't too long.   By including radio frequency in GSM, OFDM, 802.11g, CDMA2000, WCDMA and maybe some other stuff too, we could have Google right there in our brains anytime, anywhere, and the ability to talk with anyone, anywhere.  I'd like that.  My investment in QUALCOMM is dependent on a rapid reduction in the cost of electronics and improved data delivery.  The process can't go fast enough for me.  It's been far too slow so far.  I thought we'd be where we are years ago.  Globalstar has totally failed - I thought we'd be about to launch the next constellation right now due to the first being full.  Globalstar still has monster handsets running in your old-style GSM lab mode, with brick phones and battery drain with little capacity and limited coverage.   Mqurice