To: broadstbull who wrote (410852 ) 6/1/2003 2:25:11 PM From: Raymond Duray Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769667 bsb, I'm largely in agreement with you. I do have a slightly different interpretation of two aspects you mentioned. Re: FBI terrorist investigations -- Actually, I believe the FBI was doing a credible job prior to 9/11 at the field level. You may be familiar with these three individuals: <COPY OF TEXT> 1) John O'Neill: www.rememberjohn.com Former FBI Deputy Director John O’Neill resigned from Washington headquarters in August 2001, complaining that Big Oil interests were interfering with his investigation of Saudi Terrorism. Two weeks later, on September 11, he was killed while working at his new job as head of security at the World Trade Center. 2) Colleen Rowley -- FBI General Counsel Colleen Rowley from the Minneapolis field office testified before Congress that her office’s efforts to investigate Zaccharias Moussaoui were hindered and obstructed by higher-ups in the FBI. One of the superiors who refused her request for a warrant, Marion (Spike) Bowman, was recently given a Presidential Award and a large cash bonus. Minneapolis Star-Tribune, 12-18-02 3) Robert Wright -- Chicago FBI counter terrorism agent Robert Wright suffered retaliation when he complained that FBI Headquarters and the Justice Department were hindering his investigation of Islamic terrorism Chicago Sun-Times, May 31, 2002 <END COPY> Source: hereinreality.com ******* What happened in each of these three investigator's efforts was a suppression of their investigations from supervisory personnel. Various reasons have been given for this. The most credible theory being that the intertwined interests of powerful Americans, such as the Bush Family, and Saudi Arabian interests, including the Bin Ladens, was the most likely reason for the suppression of the investigations. ******** The situation with the actual timeline of events on 9/11 is well covered by Paul Thompson: Short version: wanttoknow.info Extended version: cooperativeresearch.org Mark Elsis: 911timeline.net The Andrews AFB website was removed shortly after the attacks, and when it was restored a few days later, the information about two fighter squadrons station at Andrews had been removed from the website. A clear red flag of a cover-up. One of the very best sites for credible information on 9/11 is provided by an advertising/video productions expert from Hawaii named Michael Rivero. His site is called "What Really Happened", and it was featured recently on C-SPAN's Washington Journal with Brian Lamb. Here's Rivero's main site and 9/11 site: whatreallyhappened.com whatreallyhappened.com ************** Re: I also believe a lot of the conspiracy theories are an insult to my intelligence. I've read em and they don't add up. I've been able to pretty well decide which of the conspiracy theorists are skirting on the edge. The ones I've provided above are extremely scrupulous about using bona fide and verifiable sources for their research. There are others, such as Alex Jones at Prison Planet.com that make a compelling case, but are more will to be like the Bushies and use far fetched single sourced information in reaching conclusions. I'm extremely disappointed to learn that the basis for selling the Iraqi war was some very flimsy information from questionable sources inside the exile community. That is sleazy for the U.S. to attack a sovereign nation on the basis of hearsay and rumor from an interested party within the Iraqi National Congress. ******* For a walk on the wild side, I'd recommend this one hour interview conducted by Alex Jones with Stanley Hilton as the guest: Message 18991120 What Really Happened reported yesterday that Stanley Hilton, attorney for 400 families of the victims of 9/11 is now missing, not returning phone calls or email inquiries. Curiouser and curiouser...