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To: KLP who wrote (99947)6/3/2003 1:30:47 AM
From: KLP  Respond to of 281500
 
Wolfowitz Highlights Saddam Hussein's Terrorist Links~ 02 June 2003 -Part 3 of 3

Part 3 of 3
: Despite that there has been a lot said about Indonesia doing a lot
to dismantle the network, but the network still remains. As late as
April you still have JI and Al Qaeda still meeting in Indonesia. I
guess from you, a sense of how this network that is here, JI, how
large a threat of --

Wolfowitz: Look, there are still terrorists operating in United States
and in the UK and in Europe. Particularly I think in democratic
countries, it takes time, and you have legal restrictions on what you
can do and political constraints on what you can do, and even in less
democratic countries these people go underground. So that's why our
President had said from the beginning it is going to be long war, it's
not going to be won with one victory in Afghanistan or a second one in
Iraq. It's not going to be won just by arresting 3,000 people,
although we have done that. It's going to take time and I do believe
it's also important during that time that we build up the positive
forces.

Q: Redeployment of U.S. troops. Looking at the threat, and then
bringing the troops. Where in Southeast Asia are we looking at? We
know they are coming to the Philippines, but where --

Wolfowitz: No they are not. Here is the basic thing. We are looking at
our military posture worldwide including in the United States,
Congress has given us authority and it's not easy to get that
authority to do a base realignment and closure commission in the
United States starting in 2005. That's a big thing. We are doing it in
United States, we are doing it worldwide, because we have to figure
out how to make the most effective use of our military forces. I know
we have a lot, but the requirements are large as well, and the threat
has changed. The threat turns up in places in the world we had never
imagined we'd be in before.

But the technology has changed also, and allows us to do things with
an efficiency and an effectiveness and a reach that didn't exist when
we set up many of these bases. So we need to approach our posture
differently. But some of these announcements in the press that come if
anything from some ninth level bureaucrat, and I'm not even sure that
it came from there.

We are not about to move our Marines from Okinawa to Australia --
that's wrong. We are not about to base forces in the Philippines --
that's wrong. And in any case we are not going to make any of these
changes without consulting with our Congress and consulting with our
allies and our friends in this part of the world. So, the general
principle is correct, most of the details that I have read are either
inaccurate or extremely premature.

Q: What are the key ideas that are going to motivate this new change?

Wolfowitz: I think there are really three things. One, that we can do
things at long range with precision in a way that was never possible
before. Secondly, the same sort of internet revolution that you can
see on your home computer brings together disparate forces with an
effectiveness that never existed before. But the third thing is that
the threat is so dispersed that you need a kind of mobility and
flexibility in how you move your forces around.

It's very different from old Cold War posture in Germany, where you
thought you knew exactly what the Soviet war plan was, and exactly
what you had to do to meet it, or the threat you face on the Korean
Peninsula. Those are very fixed, they are very calculable. You need a
very big force in place to deal with them. The new threats are
unpredictable, widely dispersed, and what you may need is a much
smaller force, much more quickly.

Q: There is a growing paranoia or fear among the Muslim nations that
the U.S. power, will result in them getting picked off one by one. How
do you respond to that?

Wolfowitz: I think by my count, seven times in the last ten years or
so, U.S. military forces have gone into harm's way to rescue people
from aggression or from ethic cleansing or from war-induced famine.
I'm thinking about Kuwait, I'm thinking about northern Iraq after the
Gulf War, I'm thinking about Somalia, I'm thinking about Bosnia, I'm
thinking about Kosovo. I'm thinking of Afghanistan. I'm thinking Iraq.

All seven of those countries were majority Muslim populations. We were
there helping Muslims who were suffering, not because they were
Muslims, but because our interests were engaged and because in many
cases our moral impulses were engaged as well. I think what we're
trying to accomplish in Iraq is to help the Iraqi people build a free
and democratic country, which I think will have a powerful political
effect throughout the Muslim world and the Arab world. Not all change
is accomplished by the use of force.

(end transcript)

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