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To: JohnM who wrote (100005)6/3/2003 4:15:15 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
John, you are a lazy man, so I will do your work for you. Throughout history, winners have not shrunk from calling themselves terrorist or from using terror as a tactic.

In the Illiad, Apollo shrieks words of terror at Troy. The Greeks had a god of fear (phobos) and a god of terror (Deimos).

The original terrorist was Robespierre, who was at that time a winner in the French Revolution. Robespierre and Saint Just called themselves terrorists.

Robespierre's Justification of the Use of Terror:
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>>Until recently, terror was recognized and understood, though with distaste by many, as a fact of human life. Homer knew it well and described it in the Iliad whose hero, Achilles, bears the nickname "the terror".

The leaders of the French Revolution in 1793 took pride in describing their policy as The Great Terror. Robespierre and Saint Just had no qualms about being called "terrorists." The French national anthem, La Marseillaise, contains several couplets that preach terrorism, especially against counterrevolutionaries and foreigners.

The Russian Narodniks were proud of calling themselves "terrorists" while anarchists, from Prince Kropotkin to the vagabond Nechaev, praised terrorism as "the highest form of revolutionary action." Some of Dostoevski’s heroes vacillate between terrorism and Christianity as alternative paths to salvation.

In 1905, Heydar Amoghli, a pioneer of communism in Iran, called his secret organization "The Terror Committee". Its members were called "terrorist brothers."

Gavril Princip, the Serbian nationalist who assassinated Franz Josef, the Austrian crown prince, in Sarajevo in 1914, took pride calling himself " terrorist".

The Bolshevik leader Lenin did not shy away from preaching terrorism as a means of furthering his revolution. His colleague and rival Trotsky authored the notorious "Edict on the Hostages" which made it legal for the revolutionary regime to kidnap the children and wives of czarist government officials and to assassinate them as a means of spreading terror.

In the 1940s and 1950s, the Fedayeen Islam group in Iran openly spoke of using "terror in the service of the holy cause."

The problem is that those who conduct acts of terror today refuse to be described as terrorists. This is because terrorism has not only lost its revolutionary luster but has been universally recognized as a barbarous form of political violence. There is, of course, no chance that terrorism will ever regain the romantic aura that it once enjoyed. Thus, there is little possibility that those who use terrorism will ever acknowledge their deeds in such terms. As long as no one is ready to admit that he is a terrorist, no one will be able to impose a universal definition of terrorism.<<
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>>Word Watch: Terrorism

October 6, 2001
BROOKE GLADSTONE: From WNYC in New York this is NPR's On the Media. I'm Brooke Gladstone.

BOB GARFIELD: And I'm Bob Garfield. This week at the United Nations a week long debate over a global strategy to combat terrorism. The big question? How can the world defeat an enemy it can't define? British ambassador Sir Jeremy Greenstock.

SIR JEREMY GREENSTOCK: Increasingly questions are being raised about the problem of the definition of a terrorist. Let us be wise and focused about this. Terrorism is terrorism.

BOB GARFIELD: But as the saying goes -- a saying ever more fraught with dangerous political implications -- one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

The delegates at the UN agreed that the mass murders committed in New York and Washington were acts of terrorism, but there was no agreement on similar acts committed in other places for other reasons.

Malaysian ambassador Hosmi Agam [sp?].

AMBASSADOR HOSMI AGAM: Acts of pure terrorism involving attacks against innocent civilian populations which cannot be justified under any circumstances should be differentiated from the legitimate struggles of peoples under Colonial or alien domination and foreign occupation.

BROOKE GLADSTONE: So we proceed to the latest installment in our occasional series called Word Watch. This week, it's terrorism. Steven Sloan [sp?] is the author of The Historical Dictionary of Terrorism and a professor at the University of Oklahoma. He says the roots of terrorism are as ancient as the idea of empire.

PROFESSOR STEVEN SLOAN: We often look at, for a start, the zealots who used daggers to spread consternation among Roman occupiers during the-- biblical period -to spread fear to a broader audience - the general public - which is a major theme of terrorism because it's aimed at those who survive, and obviously that has a profound impact on what we just experienced.

BROOKE GLADSTONE: When did the word "terrorism" first appear?

PROFESSOR STEVEN SLOAN: It really appeared during the French Revolution -- what was called The Great Terror -- under Robespierre. What Robespierre did was focus on the emergence of state terrorism.

BROOKE GLADSTONE: You mean terrorism committed by the regime.

PROFESSOR STEVEN SLOAN: That's right. The systematic use of terror to enforce compliance through the regime's dictates.

BROOKE GLADSTONE: How has the concept or the word become part of world history since then?

PROFESSOR STEVEN SLOAN: During the Russian Revolution, the-- well before the Russian Revolution, too, you had Russian anarchists who practiced terrorism, and it was interesting! A number of them were very careful not to get civilians targeted. As a matter of fact on occasion they would not have missions because of that. So they initially tried to be more selective.

Certainly the word I think has really become very significant. I would use in the modern age the-- Munich Massacre as the beginning of modern terrorism.

BROOKE GLADSTONE: By the Munich Massacre you mean an extremist group that targeted the-- [BOTH SPEAK AT ONCE]

PROFESSOR STEVEN SLOAN: Yeah.

BROOKE GLADSTONE: -- Israeli wrestling team at the Munich Olympics.

PROFESSOR STEVEN SLOAN: That's exactly right. And the reason it became a defining moment -- well I think was twofold. One, the terrorists were using as their mode of operations aircraft -- in essence they were delivery systems to launch attacks at an area far away from the disp--their disputed homeland.

But secondly, and I think this is much more significant -- the Munich Massacre spread fear and intimidation to a global audience because through the medium of television the-- perpetrators got their message across to a global audience, and I think that's what was particularly significant about it.

And also-- the Germans could not effectively react to that, and in the deaths that followed, which included the Israeli athletes, we understood that we had a long way to go to deal with what was then a very new threat.

BROOKE GLADSTONE: Professor Sloan, thank you very much.

PROFESSOR STEVEN SLOAN: It's a pleasure.

BROOKE GLADSTONE: Steven Sloan is a political science professor at the University of Oklahoma and co-author of The Historical Dictionary of Terrorism. William Salatin [sp?] is a senior writer for Slate.com. Welcome back to the show!

WILLIAM SALATIN: Thanks!

BROOKE GLADSTONE: The Bush administration has declared war on terrorism and in a speech following the attacks the president described the terroristsw as people who quote "hate our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other." But that, whether or not we wish to argue its truth, is rhetoric for public consumption! If we were to apply that standard to our war on terrorism how would that affect the coalition we're trying to create?

WILLIAM SALATIN: Well let's start with the most basic core of the coalition in the Middle East. That would be the countries of Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. All 3 of those countries, if you look at the most recent State Department human rights report, have violated all of the principles that President Bush enumerated in his speech. They violate the freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of vote; their secret police abuse human rights. So right away we're not defining our coalition by all the countries in it upholding those values.

BROOKE GLADSTONE: When you look at countries like China and Russia -- the Chechan rebellion has been responsible for acts of terror throughout Moscow and throughout Russia -- you have an Islamic independence movement causing a lot of trouble for the Chinese -- they regard these at terrorist movements and they would like the coalition to regard them as terrorist movments. Will that cause a problem? That broader definition?

WILLIAM SALATIN: Yeah. Imagine that there is some kind of ideal definition of "terrorism" that's really accurate and fair -- you could apply it around the world. Even on that assumption, that definition is like a tightrope, and you can easily fall off on either side of it. You can get pulled by coalition politics in the direction of making your definition too narrow. For example, we need the Syrians and the Iranians in our coalition, so we tell them look, right now we're just going to define terrorism as Osama bin Laden. Our definition of terrorism does not include Hamas and Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad which you guys support. On the other hand we've got countries like Russia and China which want us to broaden the definition of terrorism and start throwing into it people like the Chechan rebels against whom we hold the Russian government responsible for atrocities but somehow now we're supposed to look the other way and allow the Russians to perpetrate these atrocities because hey, those rebels must be terrorists too, right? We wink at Vladimir Putin while he persecutes the Chechans in exchange for his support against bin Laden.

BROOKE GLADSTONE: President Bush may have tried to address this a bit in his speech when he talked about pursuing terrorist movements of global reach. Now that would presumably leave out the Chechans and leave out the Islamic independent movements in China!

WILLIAM SALATIN: Yes. That definition would in principle leave out the Chechan rebels. But that's just principle! What's happening in the real world is that the Bush administration has already started changing its language about our objections to the Russian persecution of the Chechans to basically say -- be nice --please, Russia be nice to the Chechans rather than our objections being stated in much stronger and more substantive terms.

BROOKE GLADSTONE: So how do journalists deal with this loaded word as they proceed to try to cover a war with an enemy that is so difficult to identify unless we simply identify the enemy as the people who protect and carry out the desires of cells run by Osama bin Laden? That's pretty darn specific.

WILLIAM SALATIN: We're not going to settle this question any time soon, and instead of trying to determine the meaning of that word at the outset, we should constantly ask our government officials to square the term as they're using it with American policies. For example we could say to our Pentagon and State Department spokesmen, wait a minute -- we're forming a coalition against terrorism but you're trying to include Syria which support Hamas or you're trying to include Iran which supports Islamic Jihad. Are they not states that sponsor terrorism? How are you preventing them from continuing that kind of terrorism? Those kinds of questions will at least keep our government honest and my bet is that if we keep asking those questions, the way that the government uses the term will change or the government will have to modify its policies to make them consistent with the words that it's using. <<
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The fact that the word "terrorism" is frequently applied selectively in order to single out groups you don't like while ignoring similar acts by groups you do like does not mean that "terrorism" is meaningless - it means that politicians misuse words to suit their purposes.

Historians and political scientists are not bound by the spin that politicians use, nor should anybody kowtow to spin.



To: JohnM who wrote (100005)9/25/2005 8:51:41 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 281500
 
TIME Sunday: How many Mike Browns did Bush appoint?

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09/25/2005 @ 2:01 pm

A TIME inquiry finds that at top positions in some vital government agencies, the Bush Administration is putting connections before experience
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FROM SUNDAY'S TIME -- EXCERPTS: "Historically, the U.S. public has never paid much attention to the people the President chooses to sit behind those thousands of desks. A benign cronyism is more or less presumed, with old friends and big donors getting comfortable positions and impressive titles, and with few real consequences for the nation. But then came Michael Brown. When President Bush's former point man on disasters was discovered to have more expertise about the rules of Arabian horse competition than about the management of a catastrophe, it was a reminder that the competence of government officials who are not household names can have a life or death impact.

THE FDA: His official FDA biography notes that Gottlieb, 33, who got his medical degree at Mount Sinai School of Medicine, did a previous stint providing policy advice at the agency, as well as at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, and was a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank. What the bio omits is that his most recent job was as editor of a popular Wall Street newsletter, the Forbes/Gottlieb Medical Technology Investor, in which he offered such tips as "Three Biotech Stocks to Buy Now." In declaring Gottlieb a "noted authority" who had written more than 300 policy and medical articles, the biography neglects the fact that many of those articles criticized the FDA for being too slow to approve new drugs and too quick to issue warning letters when it suspects ones already on the market might be unsafe.

FEDERAL PROCUREMENT: David Safavian didn't have much hands-on experience in government contracting when the Bush Administration tapped him in 2003 to be its chief procurement officer. A law-school internship helping the Pentagon buy helicopters was about the extent of it. Yet as administrator of the Office of Federal Procurement Policy, Safavian, 38, was placed in charge of the $300 billion the government spends each year on everything from paper clips to nuclear submarines, as well as the $62 billion already earmarked for Hurricane Katrina recovery efforts. It was his job to ensure that the government got the most for its money and that competition for federal contracts—among companies as well as between government workers and private contractors—was fair. It was his job until he resigned on Sept. 16 and was subsequently arrested and charged with lying and obstructing a criminal investigation into Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff's dealings with the Federal Government.

A dozen procurement experts interviewed by Time said he was the most unqualified person to hold the job since its creation in 1974. Nevertheless, Safavian's April 2004 confirmation hearing before the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee (attended by only five of the panel's 17 members) lasted just 67 minutes, and not a single question was asked about his qualifications.

IMMIGRATION: The Administration nominated Myers, 36, currently a special assistant handling personnel issues for Bush. She has experience in law-enforcement management, including jobs in the White House and the Commerce, Justice and Treasury departments, but she barely meets the five-year minimum required by law. Her most significant responsibility has been as Assistant Secretary for Export Enforcement at the Commerce Department, where, she told Senators, she supervised 170 employees and a $25 million budget.

Myers may appear short on qualifications, but she has plenty of connections. She worked briefly for Chertoff as his chief of staff at the Justice Department's criminal division, and two days after her hearing, she married Chertoff's current chief of staff, John Wood. Her uncle is Air Force General Richard Myers, the outgoing Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.