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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (100036)6/3/2003 5:35:03 PM
From: aladin  Respond to of 281500
 
Jacob,

By and large the French and Indian wars were conflicts where the French and British used various tribes as proxy agents in their geopolitcal battles for supremacy in North America. The various colonials were pawns as much as the Indians. The US was left with all the animosity created by that environment and it created a lot of prejudice in the population.

But, you keep coming back to your evil America doctrine.

Al Queda killed close to 3,000 civilians at the WTC, we are going after them, its that simple. Its not evil - sitting at home and pulling back (ie going isolationist) is the wrong message.

John



To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (100036)6/3/2003 5:53:04 PM
From: frankw1900  Respond to of 281500
 
The Demonization of the Other, that is a constant.

Washington, then, Sheridan later, and Sharon today, didn't demonize their enemies. They wanted to win their wars and they did what they thought they had to do to destroy their enemies' will to fight.

In all three cases they were dealing with a very well organized enemy which gave no quarter. They were looking at win or lose, no truces: existential conflict is exactly that.

Demonization has usually been done by leaders who want to 1. steal the intended victims' property (eg, Spain and the Jews) or, 2. find a common object to focus their citizens' anger outward in service of an ideology which glorifies the leader (eg, Nazi Germany).

I have no trouble with Bush's characterization of the Hussein regime as evil - it was. Bush was very careful (correctly) to distinguish between the regime and the Iraqi people.

You are conflating things.