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To: Brumar89 who wrote (100082)6/3/2003 10:26:52 PM
From: Jacob Snyder  Respond to of 281500
 
<It's also worth noting that that conflict actually wasn't a racial one - there were whites and Indians fighting on both sides.>

Yes, that's true. The Native tribes fought each other, as often as they fought the ever-encroaching settlers. And about 1/3 of the population of the 13 colonies was pro-British in the Revolutionary War.

I probably shouldn't have used the "final solution" phrase, it's OT, and inappropriate. Get carried away, sometimes.



To: Brumar89 who wrote (100082)6/3/2003 11:23:32 PM
From: frankw1900  Respond to of 281500
 
It's clear you see the settlements as THE central issue in the Israel-Palestinian conflict. I think if it was, Arafat and Barak would have produced a peace agreement back in 2000.


Quite right. Arafat in his letter to Clinton rejected a settlement proposal which could have been negotiated to a compromise that would have avoided bantusan-ization.

With regard to the way things are now, here is an interesting article from Haaretz:

haaretzdaily.com

[Snip. The last two paragraphs]

More than anything else, the Palestinians are expecting the road map to lead to the rescinding of the internal closure, which is impeding their right of movement within the territories themselves, or to Egypt and Jordan. Again and again, expectations are dashed. But the Palestinians hear on the Israeli radio station that the easing of restrictions on movement will be granted to Palestinian VIPs - the same privilege that in the Oslo years caused huge rifts to be formed between the select minority of well-connected individuals and all the rest of the population.

About 10 days ago, groups of furious Palestinians in the Gaza Strip blockaded the road to several Palestinian higher-ups who were on their way to Egypt via the Rafah crossing. It happened on at least two occasions. Two names were mentioned: Amin al-Hindi, the head of the Palestinian General Intelligence Service; and Imad al-Falouji, a member of the legislative council (and a former Hamas member who was once the Palestinian minister of communications). People in Gaza reacted to news of the incident - which did not find its way into the Palestinian newspapers - with much contentment.