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To: tejek who wrote (170518)6/4/2003 2:23:51 PM
From: d[-_-]b  Respond to of 1579788
 
tejek,

re:Conservatives are forever complaining that gov't is in their faces and taking their hard earned money. How is that different from an extremist like Rudolph who believes the gov't killed his father because the FDA did not approve a cancer drug in time to save him?



Not everyone's father was effected by the FDA, but nearly everyone pays taxes.

Most taxpayers don't blow shit up?

He never even struck government targets. He's making up BS to show he's a loon.

Do you think we should feel sorry for his poor famliy life and give him another chance or just kill him quickly?



To: tejek who wrote (170518)6/4/2003 3:13:45 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1579788
 
Ted, Racism, the party of the rich, advocates of an aggressive foreign policy, emphasis on the military, proponents of a smaller gov't etc are some of the traditional, negative perceptions of the GOP.

Strong foreign policy and smaller government are bad things?

Your true colors are showing, Ted. Why not admit that you're a European socialist? ;-)

Tenchusatsu



To: tejek who wrote (170518)6/4/2003 7:01:50 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1579788
 
Conservatives are forever complaining that gov't is in their faces and taking their hard earned money.

Being against something that government is doing, or beign against endless growth of government and high taxation is not being against government.

How is that different from an extremist like Rudolph who believes the gov't killed his father because the FDA did not approve a cancer drug in time to save him?


So the liberals are like the unibomber because he wrote enviromental manifestos as he was killing people?

It may not be unreasonable to think that the FDA's policies contributed to his death (I don't know enough about the specifics to know if they actually did), but it is unreasonable to think "The FDA killed him", and even more so to kill someone because of that idea.

Please explain the world of difference.

Different people have all sorts of ideas. Reasonable people fight for them with words and votes. In this way you and I, no matter how much we disagree are more alike then either of us is to the terrorists, whatever the cause they are fighting for.

advocates of an aggressive foreign policy

Democratic presidents have initiated more military campaigns around the world then Republicans. Iraq by itself is a pretty slim thing to try to hang a "Republicans are militarily aggressive" charge on.

emphasis on the military

Not that much emphasis and these is nothing suspect about supporting a strong military.

proponents of a smaller gov't

That is not suspect, the Dems position of supporting ever bigger government is.

Basically your whole "when there is smoke there is usually fire" argument boils down to the fact that the Democrats are more liberal and the Republicans are more conservative, so the Dems get a free ride and the Republicans are always suspect. Its not a fair or neutral standard just a club to bash the Republicans with while claiming all the while to be nice and fair.

With the rise of Bush, there has been this whole campaign to convince the public that this is the new GOP. No longer a regional party of the South but a national party with a more sophisticated agenda.

It has long been a national party with a sophisticated agenda. In fact the GOP strength in the south is relatively recent phenomena. The Dems got to liberal for the South so it move to support the Republicans.

think there are a lot of Rep. moderates who don't share the negative perceptions of the party.......and I was prepared to believe those moderates had made a difference. However, it looks like there still are not enough of them.

Again it all boils down to "liberal good, conservative bad", or at most "liberal and moderate good, conservative bad". Your defense of liberal attacks as not being the same as conservative attacks boils down to the fact that you don't like conservative ideas.

Tim