To: LLCF who wrote (5946 ) 6/5/2003 2:51:05 AM From: Peter W. Panchyshyn Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 11633 Then you came along claiming we all owned a ton and were losers. Better read the whole thing again. I own the stock, I know I was wrong, but also owned very little -------- To be truthful and looking to your postings. No wheres anywheres is there an actual amount of HOW MUCH you owned or bought at any one time. Just that you bought some more. How much we dont know for certain. Now as you claim it may very well be very little but it could also be a lot. We just dont know for certain as no numbers are being reported. As is much the same case in any of the others, anyone elses, postings show. As a possibility you may be correct (not much) and just as equally likely and possible I may be correct (much). I'll leave it to the others to decide for themselves ------- due to lack of DD, and never recommended the stock in any way. ------ Any time anyone plays into the hype plays into the "opinion as fact" it can be and usually is viewed by many joe averages as a recommendation. Who sees more and more falling for it. Which makes him feel he must jump on the bandwagon or miss out. -------- Your insistance that I am in some way causing others harm and you need to save them by bashing me is really pretty sick Peter. ------- And it is the likes of you and others who first started the bashing a long time ago. I am just returning the favor. But I do it with evidence and past real time trust incidences like I have always done. What is sick is that you cant see the harm you have done. As I said by playing along with it. ---------- <Dont say or do things to try to convince others to go through the same all over again. < LOL, yea, you're protecting the world again... thank you Jesus. Again, I'm not saying anything to convince anyone, as I NEVER did try to convince anyone to buy the stock... ------ As the saying goes "ones actions speak much more than his words alone". And yours and others actions of playing into the hype by buying and buying more along the way without the correct or entire picture has harmed a lot of joe averages -------------------- <Bought some more Paramount last week....> Yep, as I said I owned a small bit ------ Once again no wheres anywheres is there an actual amount stated just that you bought some more again. So that small bit could in all likelihood not be small at all. All we have to go on is your word. And if that word is like some others on the other board who repeatedly stated time after time, month after month they were buying more of PMT ,since it became a trust. Coming out and saying after that that they owned really not much and weren't hurt is just plain simply a lie. And that kind of lie doesnt help anyone. ------- due to lack of DD and wanting to own more in the sector.... BTW the little DD I did do included this observation by me:Message 18701035 And this brilliant answer to my question: <<Anyway... how many years of reserves do you think Viking, Paramount really have?>> by YOU: <<For me its not that grave of an issue. An issue to be sure but no more or less than any other. And what it comes down to is ,am I going to keep getting that high monthly income each and every month or not. I am. And that is all that is of concern to me >> Not all that more helpful to the board than me Peter... and I barely post here... and claim little knowledge in the sector. ----- What exactly does this apples and oranges comparison suppose to tell. My quote above was concerning the estimates of RLI. Which may or may not reflect things in the distant future. And which may or may not reflect income many years into the future. What the PMT event will reflect or affect is the here and now and near term. BIG DIFFERENCE. That you cant see the obviousness of that shows your lack of knowledge and abilities. ------------ So, as to your claim that I am lying about my position... and that I got others into a situation and am now somehow going to get them to repeat it... well, just a sad statement by a sad person. Sorry to be the mirror, but these things happen. ------ You and others are lying about your positions. That you and the others carefully chose not to reveal some real numbers when talking of how much and how much more you were buying says it all quite clearly. Those who wish to believe that can do as they like and they will suffer for it just like they already have -------------