To: Thomas M. who wrote (24655 ) 6/5/2003 2:32:09 PM From: Hawkmoon Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 25898 For the same reason Americans are still obsessed with MIAs from our past wars, perhaps. LOL!!! It's amazing how dense you are... (or how desperate you are to avoid admitting your stupidity).. One could almost believe you were one of the Iraqi deserters who have had their ears cut off, given your unwillingness to listen the voices of the Shiite and Kurdish families who have been desperately trying to recover the bodies of their slain family members.. Of course, their ears were cut off for deserter, not for being a fanatical defender of Saddam's brutal regime, who almost puts "Baghdad Bob" to shame with your inability to accept the truth, even when it hits you like a 2x4:Even doctors became torturers; they cut off army deserters' ears. Servants of the system fell victim to it, too: police officers and prison guards arrested, tortured, then sent back to work..... ....Many of the missing men sought by family members were arrested after 1991. In 1994, a flood of army desertions caused Saddam to issue a decree ordering deserters' ears cut off, and that order appears to have been carried out with particular ferocity in Basra.... ...Until last week, they never knew what had happened to Aziz. On Monday, Abdul Ali went to the Jumhuriyah Mosque in Basra on a tip from others searching for missing relatives. It was about 1 p.m. He found there a handwritten list with 147 names on it. Number 20 was Aziz's....post-gazette.com Rafed Husseini, a doctor leading the group of local men doing the digging, said a total of 3,000 bodies had either been retrieved or located in the past nine days. About half remain unidentified while the rest have been identified mainly through documents found on the bodies, Husseini said. He said local farmers who had witnessed some of the killings by Saddam's forces had alerted them of the mass graves. "They saw the crimes taking place but did not dare talk about them at the time," Husseini said. abclocal.go.com U.N. HIGH COMMISSIONER for Human Rights Sergio Vieira de Mello said action was especially urgent because families were already picking through piles of bones, believed to be of victims of ousted president Saddam Hussein’s rule. For some families, the discovery of graves across Iraq has brought a bitter conclusion to years of worry about the fate of relatives who went missing under Saddam, toppled by U.S.-led forces last month. But human rights groups are concerned that evidence of the atrocities could be lost forever. Vieira de Mello said the evidence must be given to the U.N. special rapporteur on human rights in Iraq and to any “jurisdictions that might be established to deal with grave violations of human rights committed by the former regime.” stacks.msnbc.com Peter Bouckaert, a researcher with Human Rights Watch, criticized the U.S.-led administration in Iraq for not sending any forensic experts to Hillah and for allowing local people to excavate the graves. "The way they're doing it is, they are destroying evidence," Bouckaert said at the scene Wednesday. "It's an absolutely shameful failure on the part of the U.S. government." He said at least 200,000 people had disappeared in Iraq during the past decade, and that human rights groups knew the locations of many other mass grave sites throughout the country. kyw.com There you go Thomas... I spent all of 5 minutes collecting those reports. Even the UN acknowledges the tremendous brutality that has occurred over the past 12 years WHILE UN SANCTIONS WERE IN PLACE... They aren't in denial... Why are YOU??Your statements that anti-war people supported Saddam's butchery were ridiculous enough in their logic. Obviously you don't believe Saddam was a butcher. Because you DENY these massacres took place. You don't believe he killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, WHEN the people WHO ACTUALLY HAVE MISSING FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE NOT DOUBT. You might as well just spit on all of their graves Thomas... Geezus.. I'm sure you're also one of those people who believe Hitler never exterminated the Jews during WWII.. Just who the hell do you think you are to tell these Iraqis that Saddam didn't arrest/kidnap/kill their loved ones?? Talk about hubris!!! Just wait until the detailed probes and excavations of the other mass graves in the country come to light.. It will enourmously amusing to rub your face in the truth... What a F*cking moron you are...