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To: carranza2 who wrote (100391)	6/5/2003 1:57:56 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

>>what exactly is a neocon?<< Secret Jewish cabal that runs the world, using the "hide in plain sight" method described by Edgar Allan Poe in "The Purloined Letter." ;^)

To: carranza2 who wrote (100391)	6/5/2003 2:05:26 PM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 281500

Basically, it was a term given to certain Cold War liberals and socialists, mostly active in the Democrat Party, who became increasingly disaffected after the McGovern wing came to dominate the party. It was mainly applied to New York intellectuals and those publishing in their journals, such as The Public Interest and Commentary. Many of them were Jewish, though not all. Some remained liberal or socialist in domestic policy, while favoring a strong defense. These usually rejected the label. Others became disillusioned with the Great Society, and more skeptical of social engineering, and embraced the label. Many also thought that the mass- cultural version of bohemianism that had dominated youth culture in the '60s was corrosive to society, and became more sensitive to social issues, and the defense of Western values. These became the true conservatives of the group, and generally dropped the "neo" in the '90s. Nevertheless, there is a history and affinity that distinguishes them, although they are not monolithic. Most of them became Republican, or at least voted that way, from the candidacy of Reagan on. Some pinned their hopes on Clinton, being unable to shake their attachment to the Democratic Party. These were, of course, disillusioned. I call myself "Neocon", not because I am old enough to belong to the original group, but because I have particular affinities with them........

To: carranza2 who wrote (100391)	6/5/2003 3:07:54 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

To give an example of one strand of neoconservative that resisted the label, let me tell you about the Schachtmanites. Max Schachtman was a Communist who became disillusioned with Stalin and gained a following in sectarian socialist struggles. Eventually, he developed the view that the socialist intellectuals should take their cue from the actually existing labor movement, which is to say, the AFL- CIO. Thus, most Schactmanites became involved in organized labor or the Democratic Party, when they were not academics or writers. However, they maintained ties to the Social Democratic Party, and in 1980, took control of it and committed it to supporting Ronald Reagan, on the basis of Breshnev's adventurism and Carter's fecklessness. Needless to say, this caused quite a contratemps. Michael Harrington led an exodus into a new Democratic Socialist Party, pretty much leaving the Social Democrats to the Schachtmanites. When Clinton was pursuing the nomination, he wooed some of these people who had remained Democrats, and, in turn, they wooed others. Many preferred trying to keep their home in the Democratic Party, and remained, at least, Welfare Staters, so Clinton recruited quite a few. Generally, they disliked being referred to as neoconservatives. However, a lot of them (not all) gave up on the Democrats after being burned by Clinton.........