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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bill Fischofer who wrote (15526)	6/5/2003 3:35:55 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

Nice to hear from you Bill. I think you have said a couple of different things. First; You are quite right to point out that "murder is wrong" is simply a tautology, but that is somewhat beside the point. Point being as you recognised that; "If there is no final arbiter then you've well articulated the problems of that view" The question of a final arbiter of truth and morality is one that people disagree on. However there is a chasm of difference between those who agree that one exists, but disagree on what or who that might be and those who espouse an atheistic impersonal monism, which is what I'm hearing from you. If one is all and all is one then categories of all kinds are ultimately illusory and meaningless. I wonder if you have read any of Francis Schaeffer's work? He wrote a bit of a trilogy with "Escape From Reason", "The God Who is There", and "He is there and He is not silent" The last deals with the questions of metaphysics, morality and epistemology with an appendix on Propositional Revelation. If not, they are short and non technical but they are very insightful and I would highly recommend them to you. For me as a Christian the issue is settled by the resurrection of Jesus Christ. If it happened, then what He said is validated, if it didn't, then I would tend to agree with you. That is the view I previously held but I found it did not adequately satisfy the questions that I had and was in fact counter intuitive to what I knew in my very being to be true. That a personal God existed and that I was accountable to Him for my actions. "The crux of the matter" as you put it; is what happened at the crux? Did Jesus die as a simple example or as a sinless substitute for those who would receive it through the empty hand of faith? I previously believed the former but am now convinced of the latter. I have to run but I look forward to hearing from you later. Have a ;orf'ap day :)