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To: portage who wrote (20135)6/8/2003 8:54:02 PM
From: jlallen  Respond to of 89467
 
The problem is bush, his elite, and the neocons, not the once free, responsible, and democracy-embracing country and its constitution that they are destroying.

LOL! As this post shows, you're another Bush hating moron.......

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You so damn dumb I think you actually believe it too!

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To: portage who wrote (20135)6/9/2003 10:45:41 AM
From: portage  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Quagmire.

June 9, 2003

Iraqis Are Out of Jobs, but Payday Still Comes

By EDMUND L. ANDREWS

AGHDAD, Iraq, June 8 — It was payday on Saturday at Iraq's state-owned irrigation company. But there was not a hint of work in sight.

"Nobody has asked us to do anything in weeks," said Mahmoud Hameed, a geologist who had come only to pick up his pay. "We are all just waiting to see when the real work begins."

Two months after American forces seized control of Iraq, American officials now find themselves approving salaries for hundreds of thousands of no-show and no-work jobs.

With American blessings, the Iraqi government is paying full salaries to at least 200,000 employees at government ministries and the country's huge but moribund government-owned companies.

Mechanics linger listlessly around machines that do not run. Clerks and secretaries wait for assignments that never come. And many others do not show up at all, except on payday.

In the absence of other sources of jobs, American officials are reluctantly relying on the same kind of featherbedding invoked by moribund Communist-era conglomerates in Russia and Central
Europe.

"This is going to continue for a good while," said one senior American official for the Coalition Provisional Authority, the United States-led administration in Iraq. "Nobody is going to quibble about
paying a few more dinars into this economy to get things moving."

There are no job statistics in the confusion of postwar Iraq. But Iraqi and foreign experts alike estimate that at least one-third of the work force is either unemployed or underemployed.

When the United States Army offered to pay people about $5 a day to help haul garbage and repair schools, at least one job site last week was mobbed by more than a thousand laborers.

Job desperation is evident on the streets of any major city. Despite widespread warnings about hucksters who pose as job recruiters, thousands of Iraqis continue to pay 25 cents to $1 apiece
just to fill out job applications from street vendors who claim to have contacts at American companies.

The joblessness is likely to worsen. At least 100,000 Iraqi soldiers and civilians, from battle-scarred lieutenants to mess-hall cooks, were thrown out of work last month when American
administrators dissolved the Ministries of Defense and Information.

American officials estimate that as many as 250,000 people work for government-owned companies and civilian government ministries, and most of those jobs currently involve little or no work.

Most of Iraq's civilian ministries are still only minimally functional, damaged by bombing during the war and emptied by looters afterward.

Iraq's state-owned businesses employ 96,000 workers and produce goods ranging from electrical motors and plastics to packaged foods and clothing.

An additional 60,000 people worked for Iraq's military-industrial companies, which used to produce weapons, as well as commercial products like machine tools and iron-casting equipment.

Most of those companies, military and civilian alike, are producing nothing at all. The few that have resumed operations, according to both Americans and Iraqis, are producing at a small fraction
of their full capacity.

The hidden unemployment poses a number of challenges for Americans trying to rebuild Iraq.

On one hand, the state-owned companies represent what many American officials see as the worst of an insular Socialist economy: antiquated, bloated, incapable of innovation and shielded
from competition. To that end, American officials are mapping out a plan to sell off the state-owned companies to private investors as soon as possible.

At the same time, American officials are even more worried about aggravating Iraqi unemployment at a time when Iraqis are already seething with resentment about street violence and electricity
shortages.

So at least for the moment, American officials are seeking peace through no-show jobs.

The strategy is on display at scores of different enterprises, from the State Company for Vegetable Oil and Soaps to the State Company for the Electrical Industry.

The vegetable oil company has restarted several lines of soaps, but it is now competing against a flood of new imports from Egypt, Iran and Europe.

Of 3,900 employees, the vegetable oil company is employing only 250 people at the moment. And even if the other factories all resume operation, company officials estimate they need only 40
percent of their current work force.

Iraq's hidden unemployment was particularly visible at the state electrical company, which makes lighting equipment and motors for air-cooling systems.

Of 3,100 employees at two major factory complexes, company officials say, about 10 percent are actually working right now.

On Saturday, the company reinstituted a six-day workweek at its main plant in Baghdad. But the official workday lasted only four hours, from 8 a.m. to noon, and many workers began leaving as
soon as they had signed in.

Many of those who remained basked in the morning sun in the courtyard between factory buildings, in a scene that could have been mistaken for social gatherings at a downtown park.

"It's better to be here than just to stay at home," said Anees Ali, a maintenance engineer who was chatting with about a dozen other colleagues. "Where else is there to go? We don't have a
choice."

Under a new salary plan hammered out with help from American advisers, wages at the electric company range from 100,000 dinars a month, or about $70, to 500,000 a month for the director
general.

The technical manager for the electric company, Khalis al-Asadi, said it needed time before it could be competitive.

"If you rush into the private sector quickly, it would come as quite a shock," he said.

At other state-owned companies, most workers do not even bother to show up, because the factories have not yet recovered from the bombing and looting.

"I haven't even given it a thought," said Anwar Jamil, who has worked for two years at a government-owned plastics company and who recently picked up his salary of 200,000 dinars, about
$140.

Employees at both the government-owned companies and at ministries routinely express confidence that everybody will keep their jobs and their salaries.

"They created the problem," said Mr. Jamil, referring to the Americans as he sipped tea on Friday at a cafe in Baghdad's book market. "They should solve it."

American and Iraqi officials quietly warn that employees like Mr. Jamil are in for a shock.

A senior American official who has been mapping strategy for Iraq's state-owned companies said on Saturday that the occupying authority was hoping to agree on a strategy for privatization
within the next few weeks.

"Once it starts," the official added, "It could happen quickly."

It may already be starting. At the state-owned company for irrigation, where idle employees received their first pay in two months today, a top administrator said the officials at the Ministry of
Irrigation had told him he had just two months to cover his costs.

"Any requests for water wells, any requests anywhere, we will do it," he said. "But we aren't getting any requests."



To: portage who wrote (20135)6/10/2003 12:01:58 AM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Josh Marshall's interesting discussion of Douglas Feith's fate in the administration...

talkingpointsmemo.com

Is Doug Feith dusting off his resume? Or, more to the point, should Doug Feith be dusting off his resume? (Feith is UnderSecretary of Defense for Policy and generally considered one of the uberest of uber-hawks in the administration.)

In Washington, people seldom get fired because of manifest incompetence (God knows that's true.) Nor do folks usually get canned because of one mega screw-up. People hold their positions because of a latticework of ideological positions, interpersonal connections, reliability, their usefulness for various tasks and constituencies. When enough of those are pulled away, a person's position can grow precarious.

Feith gave an interview to the Los Angeles Times a few days ago in which he got seriously out in front of stated administration policy on possible US troop redeployments in Asia. Not that what he was saying was wrong necessarily, just not ready for public consumption.

Let's hear what Chris Nelson had to say about this in the Nelson Report a couple days ago ...

Summary: on the big Asia troop redeployment stories last week, it's now clear that Undersec. DOD Feith spoke without clearance on where to put the Okinawa Marines, and, at most, Australia looks like a future training site. General thrust of his L.A. Times interview more right than wrong. But net effect may be, finally, to show Rumsfeld why Feith is too loose a cannon to keep around.
...

Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, interviewed in Singapore over the weekend, "clarified" the rather stunning remarks of Undersecretary for Planning Doug Feith, barely stopping short of calling Feith an idiot for his L.A. Times interview claiming that U.S. Marines now on Okinawa would likely be moved to Australia.

-- but, while Wolfowitz ridiculed Feith's "Australia" statement as a "salacious detail" from "some eighth level in the bureaucracy", he did confirm what we also reported, on Wednesday, and again Thursday, that "the story in the broad concept was generally pretty accurate."

...

-- but both formal, and informal, responses to Feith's L.A. Times interview from State Department, White House and even DOD sources, on Friday, made clear that professional Asia policy handlers viewed with great displeasure what one DOD source frankly called "Feith's obvious ignorance of the political ramifications of all this", especially for Okinawa and Australia.

Another source noted that Feith's tendency to try to work directly with Secretary Rumsfeld, at the expense of consultation with colleagues, and his habit of aggressive confrontation with perceived "opponents" within the Administration, nearly led to his being fired once before.

-- it was an open question, Friday, whether this latest episode, which went far beyond "inside baseball" to present serious international political concerns, will be the last straw for Feith, but Wolfowitz's dismissive language should be noted.

So loose cannon-hood is one issue.
Then there's the question of the "Road Map." People sometimes tend to lump together all the neocons and hardliners in the administration on all the issues in the Middle East. That's not accurate. Paul Wolfowitz, for instance, may be seen as the godfather of the administration neocons. But he is also quite serious, I think, about a negotiated settlement of the Israeli-Palestinian dispute. Perhaps it wouldn't be one that doves have in mind, but one which would require what Israeli leaders often call 'painful compromises' -- certainly the creation of a Palestinian state, some retrenchment of settlements from the West Bank, and possibly even some compromises on Jerusalem.

Feith is a different sort of character. I think he can fairly be called a hardcore, Greater Israel, rejectionist -- someone who thinks the whole peace process, even a leaner, meaner one, is a mistake.

Up until now that fissure didn't matter quite so much. But in the present circumstances that puts him seriously off-message.

Finally, there's WMD and the intelligence failure issue.

If there's blame to go around in this administration it should cover a lot of very high-level people. But one of the key issues is the special intelligence shop that was set up over at the Pentagon because they didn't like the intell they were getting from CIA about Iraq. A lot of the intell they started working with came from Pentagon favorite Ahmed Chalabi's 'intelligence network' inside Iraq. And a lot of that info now seems to have been pretty bogus.

That special intelligence shop, The Office of Special Plans, came under the oversight of Doug Feith. (Today he gave what The New York Times calls "rare briefing today to rebut accusations that senior civilian policy makers had politicized intelligence to fit their hawkish views on Iraq and to justify war on Saddam Hussein.")

Don't get me wrong. I don't expect Feith to be going anywhere anytime soon. I'm not even saying he'll be going anywhere at all. Canning him would be greeted with great hostility by many of Bush's most ardently pro-Israel supporters -- not so much Jews, as evangelical Christians. But that latticework that keeps people in office looks like it's fraying a bit for him. And if the WMD intell question gains too much political traction, too much heat, I'm not sure there'd be anyone quite so well-placed to take the fall.

-- Josh Marshall