To: NickSE who wrote (100749 ) 6/9/2003 1:08:50 PM From: Ilaine Respond to of 281500 >>"Islam is just the ramblings of some dillusioned Arab madman."<< I realize that it is very insensitive of me to say so, but after reading the Koran, I agree. After reading the New Testament, a lot of the Old Testament, and various sacred and philosophical writings including Buddha's teachings, Plato and other Greek philosophers, Marcus Aurelius and other Roman philosophers, Lao Tzu, Confucius and other Chinese philosophers, the Rig Veda, the Bhagavad-Gita, Zen Buddhist texts, the Tibetan Book of the Dead, the Dead Sea Scrolls, etc., etc., to come upon the Koran is as if stumbling across the ravings of a very unpleasant, downright nasty in fact, lunatic. An exception are texts by Sufi mystics and the Rubiayat. But then, that's just me. I would feel the same about any prophet who proclaims that his followers should kill non-believers and take their women and their property. I think Mohammed was the apotheosis of tribal mentality, and I think tribal mentality is outdated and serves no useful purpose. I think tribal mentality is what keeps the Arabs down. As an individualist, I admire philosophers and mystics who emphasize the relationship of the individual and God, because individualism is the philosophy of those who will advance mankind, especially philosophies that advance not only the relationship of individuals and God but also enlightened interactions between individuals. BTW, I reject fundamentalist Judaism and fundamentalist Christianity for the same reasons. Their emphasis on their possession of a small piece of land in the Middle East, their insistance that they possess it, and the rest of the world should go hang, is something I find very unenlightened.