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To: NickSE who wrote (100754)	6/8/2003 7:59:15 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Respond to of 281500

As I said, the support for third world militaries who murdered many thousands of dissidents, was carried out under both Republicans and Democrats. Carter "talked the talk" on human rights, but during his Administration, our military went right on, training all those Latin American officers in counter-insurgency tactics, soldiers who then went home and made thousands Disappear. I used Argentina as my example, only because I've recently read about it. I could just as easily have used any of 20 other similar campaigns, in other nations, and other years. There are people high in the current Administration, who were intimately involved in these counter-insurgency campaigns, especially in Central America, in previous Republican Administrations. Perhaps I should have used Guatemala and El Salvador as my examples. For them to claim to be humanitarians, outraged at human rights abuses by Saddam Hussain or anyone else, is the purest hypocrisy.

To: NickSE who wrote (100754)	6/8/2003 9:10:17 PM
From: NickSE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Quiet Iraqis Yearn to Leave Each Other Alone ap.tbo.com ....."I love it here," says the relentlessly grinning Jamme, 40, a Sunni Muslim whose boss is a Shiite at a place owned by a Christian. "I look out over the water and after two, maybe three beers, I feel like a king." Gimy Jamme is a face from Iraq's secular society. Like plenty of other people who aren't in the streets agitating for their agenda, he lies low and waits for the rebirth of a nation, hoping only for a government that isn't a tyranny. As clerics exhort their followers to enforce Islamic law in the shards of this splintered country, some footprints of secular life have been slowly vanishing. Street shops and roadside vendors can no longer openly sell beer. Few women appear in public without at least some covering on their heads. And yet other signs of secular society are everywhere. Dozens of kids huddle around an outdoor television set, enchanted by a Jim Carrey movie. A trio of beautiful young women in black shawls wear makeup to achieve magazine model glamour. People who simply want to live the life they choose are often the quietest voices in the cacophony caused by a war and power vacuum.....