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To: i-node who wrote (170924)	6/9/2003 10:36:09 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1584453

The Amer. public acts as if its on a drug induced stupor. I think they want to be left alone and not have to worry about Iraq, al Qaeda etc. You're right about one thing. We want to be left alone and do not want to worry about Iraq, al Qaeda, etc. That's why we elected Bush. Sorry, big guy, you're not the Amer. public about which I was talking. You are one of the disturbed neocons who believes might makes right because that's how dad did or did not do it. If it weren't for the Bushes and neocons of the world, we wouldn't have to be worrying about al Qaeda, Iraq etc. If we wanted to live with fear, we would have elected Gore. You really don't understand. With Bush, you KNOW he is taking reasonable measures to safeguard the nation. By lying to us? You make me real angry when you defend his bs so I will drop it here. With a liberal president, you KNOW America's interests are subservient to those of France, China, Japan, hell, even North Korea & Iraq. Again,I say, when will evolution do its magic?

To: i-node who wrote (170924)	6/9/2003 10:41:40 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1584453

The CIA had its doubts but Bush knew what was best for the Amer. public......isn't that how your bs goes? Well, you know what, the necons arrogance has pissed people off a lot of people....so plan on more leaks. I'm waiting for the one where Bush admits he was lying but thought it was best for America. How soon do you think impeachment hearings will start after that one, O Wise One? ___________________________________________________________ CIA had doubts on Iraq link to al-Qaida Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington Tuesday June 10, 2003 The Guardian The debunking of the Bush administration's pre-war certainties on Iraq gathered pace yesterday when it emerged that the CIA knew for months that a connection between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida was highly unlikely. As President George Bush was forced for the second time in days to defend the decision to go to war, a new set of leaks from CIA officials suggested a tendency in the White House to suppress or ignore intelligence findings which did not shore up the case for war. The interrogation reports of two senior al-Qaida members, both in US custody, showed that the CIA had reason to doubt the allegations of a connection between Saddam's regime and the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon. Such assertions, promoted vigorously by the defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, were used as an additional justification for war, after the central argument that Iraq's arsenal of banned weapons posed an imminent danger. The charge of a link between Osama bin Laden and Saddam was contentious even at the time, and yesterday's report in the New York Times that the two al-Qaida members, Abu Zubaydah and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, dismissed the idea deepened the impression that Americans had been deliberately misled to support the decision for war. In recent days that impression has become sufficiently widespread to put officials on the defensive. Yesterday Mr Bush predicted that US inspectors scouring Iraq would soon find evidence of a programme of weapons of mass destruction. He also reaffirmed that al-Qaida maintained a network in Baghdad. "Intelligence throughout the decade shows they had a weapons programme," Mr Bush said. "I am absolutely convinced that with time, we'll find out they did have a weapons programme." That assertion stops well short of Mr Bush's statement during a visit to Poland on May 31 that US troops had already found weapons of mass destruction: two trailers the US said at the time had been used as mobile biological labs. With the White House fighting for its credibility, the New York Times reported that the two al-Qaida lieutenants had dismissed the notion of cooperation between Saddam and Bin Laden. Zubaydah, who was arrested in Pakistan in March last year, told his CIA interrogators that Bin Laden had considered and then rejected the idea of working with Saddam because he did not want to be in the Iraqi leader's debt. His information was supported on the eve of war after Mohammed was arrested in Pakistan on March 1. Mohammed, who had been al-Qaida's chief of operations, told the CIA the group did not work with Saddam. While the CIA shared its interrogation record of Zubaydah with other intelligence agencies, it did not release its conclusions to the public. That omission could prove extremely damaging to the administration because it suggests that officials ignored intelligence that did not fit with their plans for Iraq. "This gets to the serious question of to what extent did they try to align the facts with the conclusions that they wanted," an intelligence official told the New York Times. "Things pointing in one direction were given a lot of weight, and other things were discounted."

To: i-node who wrote (170924)	6/10/2003 12:38:57 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1584453

I guess Bush is trying to wave his magic foreign policy wand and make everyone be good, huh? __________________________________________________________ Bush scolds Israel over assassination attempt against Hamas leader Canadian Press Tuesday, June 10, 2003 CREDIT: (AP/Vadim Ghirda) Hamas militant movement official Abdel Aziz Rantisi is seen in this file photo. (AP/Vadim Ghirda) WASHINGTON (AP) - President George W. Bush scolded Israel on Tuesday for a helicopter missile attack on a senior Hamas political leader that killed a bystander and a bodyguard, warning that such a strike "does not contribute to the security of Israel." The assassination attempt came less than a week after Bush launched the "road map" toward Middle East peace he helped craft at a summit with Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas. "The president is deeply troubled by the strike of helicopter gunships that reportedly killed at least two persons and wounded 20 others," White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said. "The president is concerned that this strike will undermine efforts by Palestinian authorities to bring an end to terrorist attacks, and it does not contribute to the security Israel." Abbas denounced the helicopter strike as a "criminal and terrorist" attack and asked Washington to intervene. Bush said after the summit in Aqaba, Jordan, last week that he would seek to keep the parties on the path to peace if he saw them straying. The prepared statement issued from Fleischer's lectern seemed to be in keeping with that. "What's important in this new environment is for Palestinians and Israelis to find ways to work together on the path to peace," Fleischer said. "This is going to require both the Palestinian Authority and Israel to find new ways to protect the road map so it can advance, to face terrorism." "In looking at the progress that must be made for the road map and looking at this attack, the president is deeply troubled by it," Fleischer said. The White House has often tempered such warnings to Israel with by emphasizing that Israel has a right to defend itself, and Fleischer repeated that language Tuesday. But, he added: "Israel has to act on that right in a manner that is consistent with larger objectives, and in this case the president views this (attack) as deeply troubling." In Tuesday's strike, Israeli helicopters fired missiles at a car carrying senior Hamas political leader, Abdel Aziz Rantisi, wounding him and killing his bodyguard and a bystander. More than two dozen other people, mostly bystanders, were wounded, at least three of them critically, a Palestinian doctor said. Rantisi is the most high-profile Hamas leader to be targeted by Israel since the latest armed uprising against the Israeli occupation erupted 32 months ago. Rantisi, who suffered a leg injury and underwent surgery, said he jumped out of his car when he heard the choppers overhead. After the attack, Hamas threatened revenge. "We will continue with our holy war and resistance until every last criminal Zionist is evicted from this land," Rantisi told the Arab satellite TV station Al-Jazeera from his hospital bed. Abbas accused Israel of trying to destroy the "road map" plan to get out of its commitments. © Copyright 2003 The Canadian Press

To: i-node who wrote (170924)	6/10/2003 12:42:09 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1584453

I guess Bush is trying to wave his magic foreign policy wand and make everyone be good, huh? __________________________________________________________ Bush scolds Israel over assassination attempt against Hamas leader Canadian Press Tuesday, June 10, 2003 CREDIT: (AP/Vadim Ghirda) Hamas militant movement official Abdel Aziz Rantisi is seen in this file photo. (AP/Vadim Ghirda) WASHINGTON (AP) - President George W. Bush scolded Israel on Tuesday for a helicopter missile attack on a senior Hamas political leader that killed a bystander and a bodyguard, warning that such a strike "does not contribute to the security of Israel." The assassination attempt came less than a week after Bush launched the "road map" toward Middle East peace he helped craft at a summit with Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas. "The president is deeply troubled by the strike of helicopter gunships that reportedly killed at least two persons and wounded 20 others," White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said. "The president is concerned that this strike will undermine efforts by Palestinian authorities to bring an end to terrorist attacks, and it does not contribute to the security Israel." Abbas denounced the helicopter strike as a "criminal and terrorist" attack and asked Washington to intervene. Bush said after the summit in Aqaba, Jordan, last week that he would seek to keep the parties on the path to peace if he saw them straying. The prepared statement issued from Fleischer's lectern seemed to be in keeping with that. "What's important in this new environment is for Palestinians and Israelis to find ways to work together on the path to peace," Fleischer said. "This is going to require both the Palestinian Authority and Israel to find new ways to protect the road map so it can advance, to face terrorism." "In looking at the progress that must be made for the road map and looking at this attack, the president is deeply troubled by it," Fleischer said. The White House has often tempered such warnings to Israel with by emphasizing that Israel has a right to defend itself, and Fleischer repeated that language Tuesday. But, he added: "Israel has to act on that right in a manner that is consistent with larger objectives, and in this case the president views this (attack) as deeply troubling." In Tuesday's strike, Israeli helicopters fired missiles at a car carrying senior Hamas political leader, Abdel Aziz Rantisi, wounding him and killing his bodyguard and a bystander. More than two dozen other people, mostly bystanders, were wounded, at least three of them critically, a Palestinian doctor said. Rantisi is the most high-profile Hamas leader to be targeted by Israel since the latest armed uprising against the Israeli occupation erupted 32 months ago. Rantisi, who suffered a leg injury and underwent surgery, said he jumped out of his car when he heard the choppers overhead. After the attack, Hamas threatened revenge. "We will continue with our holy war and resistance until every last criminal Zionist is evicted from this land," Rantisi told the Arab satellite TV station Al-Jazeera from his hospital bed. Abbas accused Israel of trying to destroy the "road map" plan to get out of its commitments. © Copyright 2003 The Canadian Press

To: i-node who wrote (170924)	6/10/2003 12:46:12 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1584453

Oops.......why are they acting this way?. Don't they know Bush promised them peace? Didn't he wave the wings of Air Force One over them as he flew off? Oh wait, that was Iraq. He has promised peace to Afghanistan, Iraq and now Israel/Palestine. I guess they know he's a liar, huh? ____________________________________________________________ Three killed in fresh Gaza raid From correspondents in Gaza City June 11, 2003 THREE Palestinians were killed and 17 wounded today when two Israeli helicopters fired missiles on a car east of the northern Gaza Strip town of Jabalya, Palestinian security sources said. The three victims, all members of the same family, were killed when the first missile missed its target and hit a building, the sources said. The second missile destroyed a vehicle, causing only injuries, the sources added. It was not immediately clear who was targeted by the raid, which came only a few hours after a helicopter attack on Hamas leader Abdul Aziz Rantissi, who escaped with injuries.