To: Berry Picker who wrote (35404 ) 6/10/2003 2:38:17 AM From: 2MAR$ Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 39621 The quote you asked for is right there in the post ...you need someone to paraphrase it for you ? It matters not what Kersey Graves said or did not say , the quote is recorded in the first apology of Justin Martyr, one of the most well known early christian apologists of the second century ...making his appeal to the emperor himself to understand that Christianity proposes no indecency or herecy , but like the sons of Jupiter that also went thru great trial, sacrifices and tests here on earth and were born of the flesh , to die later, be resurrected and ascend to heaven , so in this same fashion was their own Jesus is seen also , analogous very nearly to the Roman and Greek beliefs . So the idea of Jesus as the Son of God , was nothing new in that world for there had already been many ...and that was the original point. ...little blind worm of faith and fairytales ! The link I gave you is quite credible , here I'll repost the quote one more time for you . It is extremely well known piece of early apologetics. And actually I gave you two different links in that post , both extremely credible, but you seem to have no interest in those early great believers , that gave their lives for Jesus and his teachings and truth so long ago. And did it from deep conviction and devotion ...http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Martyr From Justin Martyr's 1rst Apology , one more time for the little one. CHAP. XXI.--ANALOGIES TO THE HISTORY OF CHRIST. And when we say also that the Word, who is the first-birth(1) of God, was produced without sexual union, and that He, Jesus Christ, our Teacher, was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended into heaven, we propound nothing different from what you believe regarding those whom you esteem sons of Jupiter. For you know how many sons your esteemed writers ascribed to Jupiter: Mercury, the interpreting word and teacher of all; AEsculapius, who, though he was a great physician, was struck by a thunderbolt, and so ascended to heaven; and Bacchus too, after he had been torn limb from limb; and Hercules, when he had committed himself to the flames to escape his toils; and the sons of Leda, and Dioscuri; and Perseus, son of Danae; and Bellerophon, who, though sprung from mortals, rose to heaven on the horse Pegasus. For what shall I say of Ariadne, and those who, like her, have been declared to be set among the stars? And what of the emperors who die among yourselves, whom you deem worthy of deification, and in whose behalf you produce some one who swears he has seen the burning Caesar rise to heaven from the funeral pyre? And what kind of deeds are recorded of each of these reputed sons of Jupiter, it is needless to tell to those who already know. This only shall be said, that they are written for the advantage and encouragement(2) of youthful scholars; for all reckon it an honourable thing to imitate the gods.