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To: GraceZ who wrote (2406)6/11/2003 2:01:12 PM
From: yard_man  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4905
 
>>The whole problem is that many of these things were written without the rigor <<

I strongly disagree. Mises constructed a very good, logically consistent conceptual framework for economics.

Read the entirey of Human Action.

Mises was very rigorous in his approach because he started at the beginning -- what do you think rigor is?? Is it embodied in econometrics?? Is it numerical in nature?? what do you mean by rigor?? A long winded opinionated historical treatise ...

Mises was very good at setting out the abstractions that he used and took great pains to examine where said abstractions broke down. You simply won't find that in many of the writings today -- assumptions are built upon other assumptions -- with no examination of them -- like you -- many just accept the thesis that a constant money supply == panics and crashes without having thought these things through.

One of the biggest mistakes Mises dwells on and by golly, he is right, is that folks want to approach economics as though it were a physical science and not a social science.
With economics -- the examination of actions and choices -- the approach has to be different, to be rigorous.



To: GraceZ who wrote (2406)6/11/2003 2:09:13 PM
From: yard_man  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 4905
 
>>Friedman isn't that far away from Mises if you look at what I said this morning about Friedman's idea of holding the growth of the money supply at a constant 2% to match the long run rate of productivity growth<<

this is a distortion, Grace -- the Austrian school does not admit the money supply should grow with anything for the economy function at its best.

Friedman is very far away from the Austrian school in his reasoning -- the theory that he is most famous for among laymen -- that the Great Depression could have been avoided if the money supply had been allowed to grow -- is antithetical to the Austrian cycle theory. That's not my interpretation or distortion. it is a fact -- you can read it yourself.



To: GraceZ who wrote (2406)6/11/2003 4:40:32 PM
From: Mike M2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4905
 
Grace, the Austrians differ greatly with the monetarists with their respective explanations/causes of the Great Depression. Monetarists focus on the money supply while Austrians look money and credit from non bank sources as well. Mike



To: GraceZ who wrote (2406)6/11/2003 5:22:52 PM
From: LLCF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4905
 
<There never was much difference between Von Mises, Von Hayek, and Friedman.>

But yesterday you were dismissing Von Mises as 'wrong'.

<And placed into whose hands? Von Hayek thought in everyone one's hands through competing currencies issued by anyone. >

<My criticisms aren't directed at the Austrians, they are directed at those who misinterpret them.>

You mean the current Austrians??

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