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To: LindyBill who wrote (101376)	6/13/2003 1:54:03 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

PM: Abbas 'chick without feathers' By HERB KEINON AND JANINE ZACHARIA Calling Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) a "chick without feathers," Prime Minister Ariel Sharon told the cabinet Thursday he has no intention of delaying the war on terror until Abbas "sprouts feathers." Sharon informed the cabinet that the IDF will continue to act against the terrorist infrastructure implying that the targeted killings will continue and said it was made clear to the Americans and the Palestinians that if the PA doesn't take action against the terror infrastructure, Israel will continue to do so. Sharon, when asked at the cabinet meeting what the US thinks about Israel's policy of continuing to attack the terrorist infrastructure, said, "the Palestinians are acting like crybabies, saying they can't [fight terror], aren't able to, and that Israel is making it difficult for them. But our policy has been made clear and has not changed." Sharon's comments come amid what Israeli officials said was a change of tone in Washington, which earlier this week rebuked Israel for its assassination attempt on Hamas leader Abdel Aziz Rantisi. US Secretary of State Colin Powell, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, and White House Spokesman Ari Fleischer also made comments Thursday placing the onus for the violence squarely on Hamas. "The issue is not Israel, the issue is not the Palestinian Authority, the issue is terrorists who are killing in an attempt to stop the [peace] process," Fleischer said rest at jpost.com

To: LindyBill who wrote (101376)	6/13/2003 3:02:39 AM
From: Sig	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Where do we stand on the agreed to Roadmap to peace. Its value is being shown by identifying those who try to block it, and the next step is to find a way around the blockage. Arafat cannot afford to tell the Palestinians not to attack Israel or he would probably be killed by the Terrorist groups in his own country. The Hamas, as soon as they heard of the plan, bravely decided to show they were the most terrible of the 3 groups in Palestine and blocked the road Arafat says he has nothing to do with it. Abbas says he cannot or wont control them although he would like (?) to. Therefore the Hamas is brightly illuminated on the western stage as the blockage and will be removed. If a detour could be found around them , its obvious they would block that also. This is a war on terrorists and the Hamas are about as bad as any. Except they are only at this time attacking Israel. Assume for a moment they hated the French instead, and wanted to eliminate all Frenchmen, and were sending suicide bombers to Paris every day. Ruining the economy, killing and maiming citizens and visitors, driving away tourists. And no matter what happens, their position is the same, all Frenchmen must go. Would anyone here blame the French for trying to destroy them ? Would we support the French if they needed help? Can the UN do anything to help? I would expect some kind of action, rather than words, is now being discussed and planned among as many countries as are willing to do so among those who developed and support the Roadmap. There is a great deal the Palestinians could do if they were serious- tap the cell-phones, cut off their explosives supplies, give the Israelis their location. But thats still not enough, either their attitude changes (fat chance there) or they have to go Sig@goodbyehamas.com .

To: LindyBill who wrote (101376)	6/13/2003 7:27:05 AM
From: skinowski	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Three cheers for John McCain Make it four. It could be that the Israelis are a little too "PC" on this issue. Perhaps they should have, after a warning, bombed the heck out of every "social center" where terrorists are known to gather, including their homes, and having done that, explain to them that next time there would be NO warning. The world would say "Hey, what do you know... surprise, surprise... it seems those guys are REALLY getting pissed off about this..." Sounds harsh, right... but... a la querre comme a la querre... If the US (God forbid) ever suffers attacks in proportion to this "Cycle of Violence" business, the question wouldn't be whether or not to go hard against the bad guys, but merely in what order. jmho... just thinking out loud.