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To: Noel de Leon who wrote (101688)	6/16/2003 8:37:43 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Sharon murders toddler, mother Typical left slant, NL. When the Pals set out to kill Jewish women and children, it is "liberation." When Pal civilians get killed by the Israelis as they taking out Hamas, it is "murder." Remember, the Hamas deliberately hide in the Pal population. The Suicide Bomber who took out the Bus left to do so a day before this incident. There is no argument about it. Hamas had set up terrorist actions before Bush got back on his plane. They have no intention of letting Peace happen between the Pals and the Israelis. That is why they have to be stopped before any progress can be made.

To: Noel de Leon who wrote (101688)	6/16/2003 12:05:12 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

I would like to add to LindyBill's remarks The Suicide Bomber who took out the Bus left to do so a day before this incident. There is no argument about it. Hamas had set up terrorist actions before Bush got back on his plane. They have no intention of letting Peace happen between the Pals and the Israelis. That is why they have to be stopped before any progress can be made that when he says there is no argument about it, he means that even a Hamas spokesman agreed that the timing of the bus bombing was "fortuitous". According to the IDF, they stopped twenty attempts at a suicide bombing in the week after Aquaba. The twenty-first got through. The upsurge in violence by Hamas was completely, totally predictable. They have nothing to gain and everything to lose by a peace process. They are devoted to the destruction of Israel. They exist in their current strength because of Arafat's perfidy; he was supposed to put down the extremists (he certainly had the army to do so) but instead he let them flourish, and incidentally made sure that conditions would remain great for them. Arafat never did a single thing to improve conditions in Gaza. What do you suggest that Israel does about a stream of bus bombers aiming at civilians?

To: Noel de Leon who wrote (101688)	6/17/2003 8:14:30 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Noel, So why do you publish this story 6 days after the fact? Interesting stalinist technique to get more play out of one story. Back when it happened, how many times did you post articles about the supposed Jenin massacre? Yesterday on the BBC, the reporter claimed several million folks had been slsughter in the Congo. In Jenin it turns out there were virtually as many IDF casualties as Palestinian and the total was under 100. The Big Lie technique lives on. Have you ever printed a story that read "17 kids blown up in pizza parlor". Of course not yet, but you would jump at the chance if an israeli did this to Palestinian kids. mike