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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (415361)6/16/2003 4:31:44 PM
From: Thomas A Watson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
Clearly the 1/3 who believe it's a fraud are as stupid as you. The mobile labs are WMD's. They were predicted by the intelligence presented.

And when Colin Powell showed the models of the trailers at the UN, why if they were for non wmd purposes did Saddam not say "hey here the are and this is how we use them."

Tell us idiot J-F. Tell us why.

go ahead j-f make and economic case for hydrogen production.
tomwatsons.homeip.net



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (415361)6/16/2003 4:52:51 PM
From: PROLIFE  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
It’s a Dead Parrot
June 16, 2003
by Bruce Walker

What passes as “debate” with Leftists on Iraq policy is like the “debate” that John Cleese had with Michael Palin in the riotously funny “Dead Parrot” sketch of Monty Python’s Flying Circus. Cleese brings back a recently purchased parrot which is stone cold dead. Shopkeeper Palin dismisses every proof that Cleese can muster to prove “It’s a dead parrot!” Cleese bangs the stiff bird against the counter, hurls the still parrot through the air, notes that all vital signs are gone. Nothing works: Palin will not concede that the parrot is dead.

Leftists are spinning themselves dizzy with the mantra “Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction.” This silliness is so profound that no serious person can believe it. Absolute proof that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction is supported by multiple independent sources.

Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons against Iran and against Kurdish Iraqis. Twenty-two years ago, Hussein had progressed so far into developing a nuclear weapon that Israel felt compelled to destroy this capability through a dangerous, long range air strike.

The United Nations has already determined that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, and even those nations opposed to our war against Hussein agreed that he had weapons in violation of United Nations mandates.

Two left-of-center politicians and heads of government, Bill Clinton and Tony Blair, have stated that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction; and both political leaders have used military force against Iraq based on the fact that weapons of mass destruction were in Iraq.

Iraqi scientists who have escaped from Iraq confirm that Hussein was working on several different types of WMD’s. These brave people had nothing to gain and everything to lose from their revelations.

Has evidence of these weapons been discovered in Iraq? Yes. Equipment, weapons and supplies explicitly banned by the United Nations have been discovered by coalition forces, and this evidence is only what coalition forces have decided to reveal to the world.

Leftists, who view everything through the prism of political opportunism, cannot or will not grasp that coalition forces may see risk in publicizing everything we know about Iraq, al-Qaeda and weapons of mass destruction.

Allied forces did not disclose every military secret about the Second World War until decades after the defeat of Nazism. No one demanded more “proof” that defeating Hitler was justified. Do Leftists really believe that shining a spotlight on our intelligence operations - as they disastrously did in the 1970s - will help America win the war against terrorism?

But the Leftist innuendo that President Bush “knew” that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction and that he built his argument for war on this premise makes no sense. These critics are not arguing that he was mistaken, but that he lied. Why embed so reporters from so many news organizations if the president knew that weapons of mass destruction would not be found?

If there is a “credibility gap”, then surely this gap is between what the Baathist Party thugs said and what was true. This fraud was apparent even to sympathetic Arabs rooting for Hussein. Leftists in America, even if they cannot bring themselves to trust more what President Bush has been saying after the war, should at least now trust less what Saddam Hussein had been saying before.

The notion that President Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction is so surreal that nothing will cause his detractors to abandon the accusation. If American forces tomorrow found a huge stash of sarin gas in Mosul, president-haters would squawk that the nerve gas had been “planted.” Leftists have made an a priori determination that the president is wrong. They may not be able to say how he is wrong, why he is wrong, or where he is wrong, but they insist he is wrong.

Leftist critics of the president, like Michael Palin in the “Dead Parrot” skit, use language to deflect attention from the truth. This explains their obsession with WMD’s and their manifestly absurd whining that President Bush waged this war because of WMD’s in Iraq.

The war was “Operation Iraqi Freedom.” What is vague about that? Has any military operation ever had a name as plain and simple? But clarity is not a virtue Leftists appreciate, so maybe President Bush should have given this war of liberation another name: “Operation Dead Parrot.”



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (415361)6/16/2003 9:24:47 PM
From: jlallen  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
If its a "lie" its the same lie Clinton told, Lieberman, the Germans, the Russians, the French....etc.....