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To: Oeconomicus who wrote (157960)	6/18/2003 4:41:35 PM
From: GST	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 164684

LOL! You yourself touted the prospects for an immediate democratic process. There is no democratic process in Iraq. Only the rise of the Shiite local governmental structures at the local level, biding their time. Those absurd "Councils" that you loved to post about were a joke. While the White House played at creating "instant democracy" the country fell into chaos and growing violence, lawlessness and cynicism. You may have noticed that there has now been a complete change of direction and personnel in the American occupying administration. It turns out that governments really do play a truly important role in a society -- they provide order. The US is now resigned to something closer to reality -- the US is now beginning to behave like the occupying force that it is and will be for the forseeable future. The US is running a military dictatorship -- its own. We think our military dictatorship is far superior to Saddam's. That might well be true, although the thousands of civilians we have murdered in the course of establishing our dictatorship would probably beg to differ if they were still alive to speak for themselves. But none of this has anything to do with the bill of goods sold to the American people. We were supposed to go in, get rid of Saddam and the WMD and leave -- that was the White House agenda, captured by Rumsfeld's famous phrase "we will stay as long as it takes and not a moment longer". As long as it takes for what?? The mission was sold to the public as "go in fast, and only stay as long as it takes to get rid of Saddam's regime and his WMD". Well, the regime is gone. There do not seem to be any WMD. But when we leave? Enjoy your fantasies. No WMD. No democracy. No end in sight to the killing of the young men and women of America -- these are real people dying. Good people. The best. And there is no end in sight to the hubris coming out of the White House.