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To: JohnM who wrote (2320)6/18/2003 6:01:43 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793955
 
Democrats talk of winnowing 9 candidates to 6 most likely to succeed

By Steven Thomma
Knight Ridder Newspapers

ST. PAUL, Minn. - Democrats are starting to wrestle with a thorny problem: how to brush aside three fringe candidates for president who have no realistic chance of winning their party's nomination next year.

Several state Democratic Party chairmen think the national party should find a way to limit debates to the top six candidates and exclude the three widely considered to make up the bottom tier: Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio, former Sen. Carol Moseley Braun of Illinois and the Rev. Al Sharpton of New York.

In interviews before this week's annual meeting of the Association of State Democratic Chairs, several suggested setting a threshold for candidates' admission to debates based on support as measured in public-opinion polls, fund raising or campaign organization in early primary states. They favored doing this even before the first votes are cast next January.

Other state chairmen disagreed, saying they preferred to keep the debates and the race wide open until Democratic voters start winnowing the field themselves with caucus and primary votes early next year. Any effort to bar candidates would be undemocratic, they said, and would risk alienating rank-and-file party members. Notably, two of the bottom three candidates are African-Americans, one of the party's most loyal constituencies. All three are liberals.

The desire to thin the field months before voting begins stems from a widely shared perception that none of the nine candidates has emerged as a front-runner. With an unusually large field competing for money and attention, particularly in debates where answers can be limited to 30 seconds, many state chairmen fear that no one's message can break through.

The six candidates whom Democratic chairmen described as bunched together in the top tier are former Gov. Howard Dean of Vermont, Rep. Richard Gephardt of Missouri and Sens. John Kerry of Massachusetts, John Edwards of North Carolina, Bob Graham of Florida and Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut.

"Hopefully, the field will thin," said Mike Erlandson, the state party chairman in Minnesota and host of this week's national meeting. "I'd like to drop our field to three or four. If we had it down to three or four by this fall, we'd be well served. Some of these candidates have to look at their candidacies seriously. ? Either you're engaging the electorate or you're not. That's measured with donors and the grass roots."

Florida Chairman Scott Maddox said he thought the bottom three candidates livened debates and energized Democrats. But he hopes there will be a way to exclude poorly performing candidates by early December, when candidates will troop to Orlando for the Florida state party convention. By then, he said, Democrats need to focus on possible winners and can't give precious debate time to those who can't win.

"When you have nine people in a debate, it's very hard to get anything substantive across," Maddox said. "As we get closer, it should wind down to those who have a real shot at being president."

Arkansas party Chairman Ron Oliver sees no reason to exclude candidates yet, but he said it could become necessary before primary voting started.

"At this early stage, they ought to be included," Oliver said. "Later on, they will be winnowed out. They won't be able to raise any money, they won't show as well in surveys or polls. There are number of ways. ? I wouldn't mind if it were sooner rather than later. Very soon, we're going to have to make that distinction."

Other state party officials disagreed.

"Democracy is not necessarily neat," said Melvin "Butch" Hollowell, chairman of the party in Michigan. "Having the input from a broad spectrum is a good thing. We want more people participating, not less. We don't want to send a signal that the Democratic Party is closed or not welcoming to all comers."

"I don't like it. I understand it, but I don't like it," said South Carolina Chairman Joe Erwin. "I don't think it's the right thing for the Democratic Party to do. The Democratic Party stands for everyone having a voice."

The Democratic National Committee, which is preparing a plan for six monthly national debates through the rest of this year, won't exclude any of the candidates, spokeswoman Debra DeShong said.

"The goal is give our voters maximum exposure to our candidates," she said. "We're not trying to limit exposure."

None of the candidates urged any limit on debate participation. But an aide to one top-tier candidate welcomed the idea.

"It makes a lot of sense," said the aide, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of alienating supporters of bottom-tier candidates. "You could begin to have a more focused debate. You could get more opportunity to get your message out."

Predictably, candidates who would be excluded oppose the idea.

"If they attempted to exclude Kucinich, there would be an insurrection," said Jeff Cohen, a spokesman for Kucinich's campaign. Cohen argued that Kucinich is drawing enthusiastic crowds and such a limit in the past would have excluded former California Gov. Jerry Brown in 1992 and Jesse Jackson in 1988, both of whom finished second to the eventual nominees.

Braun voiced defiance: "They can go right ahead if they want to lose. They can do that if they want to hold an election and no one shows up."

Frank Watkins, a spokesman for Sharpton, said, "If they put him in the bottom tier, they're not reading the polls." A Gallup poll earlier this month showed Sharpton running fourth, ahead of Dean, Graham and Edwards.

"The only poll that really counts is the actual voting. Everyone has a right to run until they can't justify their campaign," Watkins contended. "Any attempt to short-circuit that process is a disservice to all the candidates who put themselves on the line, and a bit of a slap in the face to the American people."



To: JohnM who wrote (2320)6/18/2003 6:19:09 PM
From: Glenn Petersen  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793955
 
John the Chicago Tribune ran an interesting article on Norquist two Sundays ago:

"If the movement had five more Grovers, you'd be able to close the door and shut the lights on the left,"

chicagotribune.com.

Pipeline leads to White House

By Jill Zuckman
Washington Bureau

June 9, 2003

WASHINGTON -- Those who believe in a "vast right-wing conspiracy" might trace its path to a generic conference room of a nondescript office building here, where fresh bagels and cream cheese await more than 100 conservative activists every Wednesday morning.

The regular meetings have attained such stature that Republican candidates come to make their pitches and ask support; White House and congressional officials provide briefings unavailable to others; and advocates for dozens of conservative causes and clients use the sessions to coordinate efforts.

Overseeing all the activity is Grover Norquist, a baby-faced anti-tax crusader with a clip-on microphone and an enthusiasm unusual in jaded Washington circles.

"To the extent that there is a conservative network, Grover is at the switchboard," said John Pitney, an expert on the Republican Party who teaches government at Claremont McKenna College in California.

The activities of Norquist and his Wednesday meeting, as it's informally called, illustrate the direct, perhaps unprecedented pipeline conservatives have into the White House. Senior presidential adviser Karl Rove, who is in regular contact with Norquist, always sends an emissary and sometimes personally attends the weekly meetings. George W. Bush sent a representative for a full year before he even announced he was running for president.

Norquist is highly specific about his ultimate objective.

"The goal is to reduce the size and scope of government in half over the next 25 years," he said in an interview.

Norquist and the White House are so close that it is sometimes difficult to discern who is influencing whom. But such Bush initiatives as privatizing Social Security, moving Medicare recipients into managed health-care programs, eliminating the estate tax and reforming tort lawsuits bear all the marks of Norquist's thinking.

In another example, Norquist began pushing for Congress to pass annual tax cuts well before the White House said it would press Congress to do the same thing.

The conservative mastermind also has affected lawmakers directly. When Norquist heard last year that the House was considering doubling an airline fee to fund the National Transportation Safety Board, he called then-House Majority Leader Dick Armey (R-Texas) and sent a letter of opposition to every lawmaker who had signed an anti-tax pledge Norquist promotes.

Within hours, the fee was dead.

At his Wednesday sessions, Norquist, 46, sits at the center of a long conference table, like a cross between a maestro and a master of ceremonies, as he calls on one conservative leader after another to report on their activities.

He peppers his speech with "peachy keen" and "neato," and he views political players as either unequivocally good or irredeemably bad. He is trying to form similar Wednesday groups across the country; there is one in Illinois that functions by conference call.

Among Norquist's goals is placing former President Ronald Reagan's name on buildings across the country. Children see the names of Presidents Franklin Roosevelt and John Kennedy on their schools, he argues, and it's important for them to appreciate the conservative Reagan too.

Norquist calls his Wednesday meeting a "center-right coalition," and he says it is made up of those eager to be left alone. From gun owners and home schoolers to property rights advocates and anti-taxers, the attendees want government to stay out of their business.

On issues that spark dissent among the troops-- abortion, school prayer and trade among them--Norquist tamps down debate and urges people to move on.

"In a properly run movement, you don't eliminate conflict, you manage conflict," he said.

Calling on Norquist

The meetings give the activists a place where administration and congressional officials will hear their concerns. In turn, the White House often finds itself asking for the help of Norquist and his group.

"Any entity as savvy as this White House knows that they can call Grover and consider it done," said Kellyanne Conway, president of the Polling Company, a Republican firm she started at Norquist's urging. "That's an important reputation to have."

For example, the White House asked Norquist for help in pushing Congress to confirm judicial nominee Miguel Estrada. Norquist used his national network of contacts to successfully push 10 state legislatures to pass resolutions calling for the nominee's confirmation.

Norquist also has persuaded state legislatures to formally support Bush proposals on using force against Iraq, abolishing the estate tax, reforming the tort system and building a national missile defense shield.

Norquist believes such state resolutions can be more powerful than inside-the-Beltway lobbying. "That's a state legislature saying, `Hey, we noticed; we know what's going on; we're watching you, senator,"' Norquist said.

As president of Americans for Tax Reform, a $3 million-a-year operation, Norquist has been responsible for persuading about 250 members of Congress and the president to sign an anti-tax pledge in an effort to reduce the size and scope of government.

His Wednesday meetings have steadily gained influence since they began in 1993. On a recent rainy Wednesday, the room is packed with conservatives of every stripe. Some pass out literature--including a denunciation of Republican Party Chairman Marc Racicot for being insufficiently conservative--while others chat.

David Keene, president of the American Conservative Union, reports on a conference of conservatives that met in Chicago.

"There really is no Republican Party in Illinois," Keene said. "It's all collapsed around [former Gov.] George Ryan."

Running the gantlet

Charlie Dent, a Republican from Pennsylvania, is hoping for the group's support for an upcoming congressional run. He introduces himself as somebody who can win Democratic votes as he seeks to fill the seat being vacated by Rep. Patrick Toomey (R-Pa.).

The participants immediately pounce on Dent, asking his position on abortion; Dent is essentially pro-choice, and his answer does not satisfy all the attendees. But simply by attending the meeting Dent is able to connect with people from more than 100 groups representing millions of constituents who could potentially help his campaign.

"Any Republican candidate who doesn't go before this group would have to have their head examined, because it's a way to get your message out and get access to endorsements or mailing lists," said Ann Stone, national chairman of Republicans for Choice.

For their part, Democrats are suspicious of Norquist's activities--and a little jealous.

"It is an overt, bald-faced coordination of government and special interests," Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said. "It is shameless."

Yet Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) once suggested that Democratic activists should convene a similar group, and now Senate Democrats regularly bring advocates to Capitol Hill for sessions on children's welfare, the environment, civil rights and other matters.

Ralph Neas, president of People for the American Way, a liberal advocacy group, praised Norquist for his candor.

"Grover at times can be harsh, intemperate and insensitive, but he is a true barometer as to what this Bush administration is all about," Neas said. "I don't think there's any difference between the two."

Republicans praise Norquist for his big ideas, and many credit him for helping Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) develop the Contract With America that led to the Republican takeover of the House in 1994.

"He's very good at building fundamental arguments that are philosophically based," Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho) said.

Despite such praise, Norquist sometimes faces dissent from within, as in a recent flap over his plan to expand the Republican Party by attracting Muslims. Some conservatives expressed worry that Norquist would inadvertently connect them, or the White House, to groups with terrorist ties.

Paul Weyrich, president of the Free Congress Foundation, said he told Norquist, "I think that you're playing with fire," adding, "We don't really know which of these people are tied to terrorists and which are not."

Frank Gaffney, president of the Center for Security Policy and a Pentagon official in the Reagan administration, raised concerns in a speech about anti-American Muslim groups penetrating the White House.

Banished from meetings

Norquist responded by sending Gaffney a letter denouncing him and demanding he apologize to the president and his staffers. He also banished Gaffney from the Wednesday meetings, which Gaffney had attended for the last five years.

"If religious bigotry is behind it, they can go to hell," Norquist said. "My position is the president's position."

After the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, Bush repeatedly urged Americans to embrace Muslim Americans, not shun them. And Norquist has spent years working to recruit Jews, homosexuals and other groups not traditionally found among conservatives.

"The Republican Party and conservative movement needs to be open to all people," Norquist said. "The principle is you should not leave any votes on the table because they think you hate them or have little respect for them."

His supporters say it is that determination that has made him such a success.

"If the movement had five more Grovers, you'd be able to close the door and shut the lights on the left," Conway said.

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About Grover Norquist

Key facts: He's 46. Grew up in Weston, Mass. According to a 1998 interview in Insight on the News magazine, he read J. Edgar Hoover's anti-communist book "Masters of Deceit" when he was 11 years old.

Education: Bachelor's and MBA degrees from Harvard University.

Political career: Former executive director of National Taxpayers Union and of College Republicans. Former economist and chief speechwriter for U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Helped draft then-Rep. Newt Gingrich's Contract With America in 1994 and wrote a book about the GOP movement called "Rock the House." Head of Americans for Tax Reform since mid-'80s. Currently serves on boards of the National Rifle Association and the American Conservative Union.

How he's described: "A thumb-in-the-eye radical rightist" (The Nation), and "Tom Paine crossed with Lee Atwater plus just a soupcon of Madame Defarge" (P.J. O'Rourke).

Favorite movie: "Moscow on the Hudson," according to the Insight interview. He said it's "a celebration of immigration. It's the most patriotic movie ever made!"

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