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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: James Calladine who wrote (15605)6/19/2003 10:12:56 PM
From: Solon  Respond to of 28931
 
"The fact that you are not interested in this, or don't want to investigate it, or don't believe it, is fine with me.
That's your prerogative.
"

This gratuitous comment does not respond to my post. Indeed, I was interested enough to ask several questions and consider several objections--none of which you have responded to directly.

"From time IMMEMORIAL there have been beings who have
reported EXPERIENCES of both:
-- the physical body and
-- the astral or energy body
"

All bodies which may be seen have physicality and substance.

"The Russians developed Kirlian photography to be able to
photograph that
"

Kirlian photography captures the glow of electrons excited by a current between two electrical conductors. This works for the inanimate as well as the animate provided they have electrical conduction. Personally, I find the glow of electrons when they leave a negative cloud bottom and race to meet the positive charge leaving the earth to be far more impressive. But Kirlian photography can be pretty, I grant you.

"Spiritual masters and other advanced beings have EXPERIENCES of the causal body (or root body)."

And how is that any different than if you had testified that masters such as the fellow from Quebec have been commissioned by UFO Gods...as he tells HIS disciples???

"They also testify that EVERYTHING(all bodies) arise in light"

If light is taken as the entire electromagnetic spectrum then certainly all gross physical forms are created from an aggregate of molecules composed of positive and negatively charged particles. But this is not revelatory.

"It is also your prerogative to disparage those whose investigations have gone deeper than yours."

It is my prerogative to disparage frauds and charlatans, as well. The genuine article will never be harmed by my explorations.

Now, I think it may be reasonably asserted that you stand in relation to Adi Da as a disciple to a guru. This being the case (and, of course I stand to be corrected if mistaken) it would follow that you consider his words to be TRUE. I suspect that he has even made it clear to his disciples that his words are SACRED. If these points are true, or even partially so, it would explain some of your tone of resentment in having your certainty questioned, and your umbrage at my asking for a greater proof than anecdotal say-so.

You may certainly have all the answers to all the questions in all the universes and in all the realms...I don't dispute that possibility. I merely questioned the bases of your beliefs, and I allowed sincerely that they appeared to me to be rather flimsy and without broad appeal. You may of course be uncomfortable with having your words questioned inasmuch as they represent the opinions of a supposed spiritual leader. I am not unaware that you may find such scepticism to be both hurtful and impertinent.