To: KLP who wrote (102486 ) 6/23/2003 7:00:49 PM From: marcos Respond to of 281500 ' Senators Predict 5-Year Presence in Iraq By Will Dunham WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. senators said on Monday American troops could remain in Iraq (news - web sites) for at least five years, and U.S. officials said there was no indication toppled Iraqi President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) or his sons were killed in an attack on suspected "regime figures" in western Iraq. The lawmakers, members of the influential Senate Foreign Relations Committee on a bipartisan fact-finding visit to Iraq, urged President Bush (news - web sites) to be more forthcoming* about the breadth of the U.S. commitment and the cost of rebuilding Iraq. "I think we're going to be here in a big way with forces and economic input for a minimum of three to five years," Sen. Joseph Biden (news, bio, voting record), the committee's ranking Democrat, told reporters in Baghdad. "There now needs to be real truth-telling by the president and by each of us," added Sen. Richard Lugar (news, bio, voting record) of Indiana, the committee's chairman. Lugar and fellow panel Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel (news, bio, voting record) of Nebraska agreed that five years was a realistic figure. "The president's instructions are that we will stay as long as necessary but not a day longer. I think we are still in the very early stages of the post-major-combat era," White House spokesman Ari Fleischer (news - web sites) told reporters. Fleischer said it was an "open question" as to how long it would take to establish security and stability in Iraq, beginning with the country's ability to self-govern. Bush has stated his opposition to U.S. participation in "nation-building," and top administration officials scoffed at prewar predictions by a top Army general that hundreds of thousands of U.S. troops would be needed to occupy postwar Iraq. .... 'story.news.yahoo.com * - 'more forthcoming', lol KLP, it is not particularly helpful to post the header of this thread to me, i have seen it .... likely many here have not read the magazine 'Foreign Affairs', personally i do not even know where to buy it, doesn't matter though, 'other sources' are specifically permitted, and i should think they could maybe perhaps include personal experience, and shall operate on that assumption until someone with authority and/or intelligence comes along and says otherwise .... meantime you'll gain nothing grinding on like this, hopefully you'll realise that As for caring, there are six billions on this planet, it is a long queue of folks to care about, feel free to join at the end