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To: michael97123 who wrote (102636)	6/24/2003 4:00:57 PM
From: marcos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

'Effective freedom of religion for israel means giving up the jewish nature of the state' ... precisely 'Do all the peoples of the world get right of return as well.' ... mmm, well the indigenous of the occupied provinces of México do, for sure -g- ... no time now, but i have a story of landing at Heathrow and having to go through the 'aliens and heathen dogs' line instead of the 'british subject' line, after that g.d. frenchman Trudeau 'repatriated' the canadian constitution, this certainly offended my own sense of the inalienable right of return 'You are dreaming' ... damn straight 'last night i had the strangest dream i never had before i dreamed the world had all agreed to put an end to church' 'and delaying peace by asking for the impossible' ... no, seeing the goal clearly does not prevent sensible interim measures for one's security - freedom from religion means no harm done to fellows in its name, and harming actions can be addressed today .... on both sides [like i say, show me an indigenous and i'll type at him too] .... somebody has to start freedom, if all sit back and say let the other guy start, we won't get there ..... leadership is best done by example, and Israel is the religious state being newly imposed on the others, it is far richer, subsidised hugely by the US, got weapons up the ying-yang, let it make a show of at least trying to start a little freedom ... it's just important to see the core of the problem, and that core is religion, period .... much later, got to go, cheers