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To: Ilaine who wrote (102843)6/25/2003 3:58:54 PM
From: michael97123  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I suspect neither you or neocon are jewish. Well i am and oy vey, i dont give a rats ass on who threw me out of where. Just dont throw me out of the bar i am heading too now after this furious burst of history by you two. Thats why i was a poly sci major. Couldnt take all the detail. It takes us away from getting the job done. Those who can do, those who cant argue history. This post is all(mostly) in jest. <ggggg> Mike



To: Ilaine who wrote (102843)6/25/2003 4:24:08 PM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I suppose that you are right, it was not mandatory for all Jews to leave, but it was a pretty foreseeable result that most would. It is not, after all, terribly impressive that after 300 years, Jews were finally allowed back into Jerusalem. It was the main population center, and its population were the main customers for the a wide swathe of surrounding countrysid. Besides, the country was left a shambles:

When the full extent of the uprising was gauged in Rome, the emperor dispatched Julius Severus, victor of the recent war in northern Britain, at the head of two legions, to suppress the rebellion. The war proved protracted and merciless. The rebel forces, perhaps half a million strong, adopted a guerilla-style warfare which denied the Romans a decisive battle, favourable to their cavalry and the use of the phalanx. Drawing troops from everywhere from Egypt to Syria a full-scale invasion force was assembled. Twelve legions were ultimately to be deployed in the province, systematically annihilating hundreds of towns and villages. Jerusalem was retaken only in the third year of the war. Akiba and nine other ‘doctors of the Law’ were executed although some fanatics escaped to Persia. After three years of attrition, Simon and the last of the rebels, plus many refugees, were trapped in the fortress of Bethar, south west of Jerusalem. Hadrian himself joined the besiegers for the final capitulation. Famously, he refused to accept a Triumph for this brutal war.

The Romans had been badly mauled – ninety thousand troops lost in conflict and related pestilence. Yet the cost to the Jews was total: the end to their existence as a self-governing nation within the Empire; half a million war-dead (from a nation of perhaps three million); tens of thousands sold into slavery and the arena. Even the name of Judaea was erased from the map, replaced by ‘Siria Palestinia.’ On pain of death, Jews were forbidden to enter the new city of Alia – rebuilt more modestly – save for one day a year, to mourn their lost temple. On the holy mountain of the Samaritans Hadrian erected a temple to Zeus, embellished with the bronze doors taken from Jerusalem. For a time, study of Jewish scripture was outlawed, as also the keeping of the Sabbath. The ‘pious’ resistance of the Jews had exacted a terrible human price.



Throughout the year AD 135, the Mediterranean ports were flooded with Jewish refugees and the slave markets overflowed with captives. Only the Christian Jews – who harboured a resentment against the rest of the tribe – drew comfort from the disaster. The Romans, they reasoned, were the instrument of divine wrath, incurred by the Jews for the rejection of their prophet.


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To: Ilaine who wrote (102843)6/25/2003 5:19:22 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
No, the Romans only threw out the rebellious Jews out of Jerusalem, the Holy City, after they destroyed the Second Temple, circa 135AD. The rest stayed in the region, or left voluntarily. They were allowed in to pray at the site of the Temple once a year.

The Temple was destroyed in 70 CE. The deportation of all Jews from around Jerusalem, and renaming the city Aelia Capitolina, happened after Bar Kochba's rebellion in 135 CE. A sizable portion of the population was enslaved at this time.