To: stockman_scott who wrote (21091 ) 6/27/2003 12:02:01 AM From: Jim Willie CB Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 89467 heard today the ugly truth behind my layoff at firm had a 90-minute extremely open and friendly talk with my manager actually, nobody manages me, and that is part of my problem today he opened up, realizing my demise is written in stone we talked about the economy, our businesses, workers, internal accounting, sacred cows, and some sabotage but what caught my ear was a $3 million dropped ball it seems two VP's were warned by a large client 18 months ago about some dissatisfaction of my firm's handling of the ongoing account these two VP's are sharp guys, but too much responsibility to handle they said "it is fine, the client will back off" 6 months ago, the same client complained again we are talking about a very big client numerous people worked on their account the two VP's again said "they will quiet down in time" last winter, the giant client pulled the account they decided to build their own database system internally we lost a $3 million account our firm had to react, cut costs, lower headcount I was let go the VP's are entrenched, the brethren, good people but they made a mistake they are seasoned veterans over 10 years each one might be heir apparent to CEO post regardless, I must go my cost is significant, mostly overhead, an easy call I was surprised at the unusual candor by my manager he is a great guy, a sharp fellow, I like him very much, I always have he makes tough decisions all the time, great instincts he never utters an ugly or needlessly harmful word here is the strangest part of my job I was hired in May2001, to report to a guy named Patrick when I arrived 10 days later, Patrick was gone I was shoved onto my manager's lap, with me an unknown person he hadnt even met me we quickly became acquainted there was no plan for my job, never was this employment has been one massive fuchup but this firm had been doing remarkably well in this tough environment, clients dont put up with shit today I also heard about deep accounting inequities some groups generate business for other groups some groups are extremely profitable internal accounting does not address either issue well if not resolved, some bigtime problems coming also heard about some abandonment by a former account manager he left the firm recently, leaving a mess behind he had sandbagged my last review, with some massively underhanded lousy ass deception he was no "straight shooter" as we like to say he bailed out before chaos hit in a massive shitstorm some deep data integrity problems much more to the story, but I was pulled from that account now my manager must attempt to hold it all together that is a $350k ongoing annual account they care about helping me along they allow me to spend half my time looking for a job they allow me to use the telephone long distance but they expect me to make some decent continued progress, and to assist in certain transitions I will somehow get by, maybe not really I hope and pray that I thrive my own firm wants to hire me back for at least $1000 per month it adds up if I could find 6-10 more like them, I would be swimming in it a launched website making at least that sum would be peachy but my fave little miner is struggling to regain the upper hand in drilling they might turn it around what irony!!! the exact troubles on corporate layoffs I anticipated, they hit me three days after my own investment headed south bigtime damn damn damn I intend to laugh last, and laugh hard / jim