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To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (18793)	6/27/2003 5:31:01 AM
From: zonder	Respond to of 21614

The "Box of parts" are REQUIRED parts to create a nuclear weapon Underground for 12 years? Wow. Imminent danger to the US, who was so right to invade, then :-) As far as being misled - I don't believe I was. You want to imply I was stupid, taken for a ride etc etc. Please. I don't think and have never suggested that you are "stupid". I do, however, think that your trust in your government was abused. Haven't you heard how your government is now dancing around the issue with "faulty intelligence" etc? The way I see it we now have localized regional bases that we can use to stomp out countries and groups that pose a threat to global security. "Global security", hm? Funny how the rest of the "globe" does not seem to be too happy about this. Why do you think that is? And to be honest....I don't give a rats ass what the rest of the world thinks. My personal opinion is that you should. If 9/11 showed one thing, it was that the US is not so far away from the rest of the world that it will not matter even if the whole world hates her. Your country is becoming an "empire". We all loved it as a "republic". Not many will like it as an "empire". That means the world can be a more dangerous place for Americans in the coming decades. I would hate to see that happen - not only because I prefer peaceful coexistence but also because I have close friends and relatives living in US metropolitan areas.

To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (18793)	6/27/2003 6:30:10 AM
From: zonder	Respond to of 21614

Iraqi scientist "proves" Saddam had nuclear plan [I don't need to explain to anyone what Financial Times putting "proves" in quotation marks means, right? Read below to where IAEA spokesperson says this only confirms Iraq has no nuclear programme post-1991.] By James Politi in Washington and Mark Huband in London Published: June 26 2003 21:51 \| Last Updated: June 27 2003 0:09 news.ft.com The White House on Thursday seized on evidence that for 12 years an Iraqi nuclear scientist hid parts of a gas centrifuge system for enriching uranium under a rose bush in his back yard to show that Saddam Hussein's regime had an undeclared plan to develop nuclear weapons. Ari Fleischer, White House spokesman, said the find illustrated the challenges confronting the international community as it searched for Iraqi illicit weapons programmes "designed to elude detection". "According to this scientist, this is information, these are materials that were deliberately hidden, with the purpose being to produce them once sanctions had been lifted from the country, in an effort to reconstitute their nuclear programme," Mr Fleischer said, stressing, however, the find was "one piece" of evidence that Iraq had been reconstituting a nuclear weapons programme. US forces have so far failed to find any WMD in Iraq. Until the rose bush discovery, the only evidence on the ground of Iraq's WMD capabilities produced by the Bush administration have been two mobile trailers it claims were designed for the production of biological weapons. But even that claim is controversial, with the New York Times on Thursday reporting that the State Department's intelligence unit disagreed with that assessment in a memorandum written on June 2. The decision by an Iraqi scientist to hand over information on Mr Hussein's WMD plans was greeted with satisfaction by the Bush administration, which hopes it will lead other scientists to come forward. The US has been under mounting pressure to find WMD in Iraq and prove it did not manipulate intelligence to beef up its case for war. The material revealed by Mahdi Shukur Obeidi, responsible for the development of centrifuges for uranium enrichment before the 1991 Gulf war, could be a breakthrough in that regard. However, officials from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the UN nuclear watchdog, said yesterday that the discovery of the parts did not alter its view that Iraq had abandoned its nuclear programme in 1991. According to Mr Obeidi, Qusay Hussein and Hussein Kamel, Mr Hussein's son and son-in-law respectively, had ordered him to bury the parts and documents in 1991. Mr Obeidi did not disclose the details to officials of the IAEA who interviewed him last year. One US official described the find as "very significant". "It confirms our long-term view that Iraq had hidden key nuclear weapons technology," she said. But Mark Gwozdecky, IAEA spokesman, said that the find did not amount to a "smoking gun". "The findings and comments of Mr Obeidi appear to confirm that there has been no post-1991 nuclear weapons programme in Iraq [after the first Gulf war], and are consistent with our reports to the [UN] Security Council," Mr Gwozdecky said. The White House reaction will be interpreted as proof of its determination to quash suggestions it manipulated intelligence over Iraq's WMD programme. Tony Blair's British government has been under similar presure over two "dossiers" of intelligence and other information on the deposed Iraqi regime. US forces have so far failed to find any WMD in Iraq.

To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (18793)	6/27/2003 5:38:59 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 21614

<The "Box of parts" are REQUIRED parts> Something basically wrong with your basic (REQUIRED) education??