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To: Solon who wrote (6607)	6/27/2003 10:54:53 AM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7720

"If we are speaking of ultimate ideals of perfection then we neither see it nor sense it through any other means. Ideas are ideas. Ideas of perfection are myths of the mind. They are created to preserve order from chaos, and to seek totality and wholeness in both our surroundings and our ideas. Thus we conceive of the perfect circle but we will never see one. And we will never see perfect goodness. What would a perfect goodness look like...even if we saw a part of it?" This paragraph seems to sum up your position, which I pretty much agree with. I do not think that ideals of perfection are realizable in the sensual realm of existence. Purity, wholeness, goodness, truth, etc. in an ideal form are imaginable but in the sensual world these same concepts are impossible to pin down in the ideal form. Since they are imaginable they have a realness that is abstract or as you put it "mythical." So, what good are they? They are directional as ideals for human endeavor. Just as vision and goals are directional in business, government, etc. One can only hope and aspire for a better existence and as one does we imagine who we are, where we are, how its going, and why...we imagine a better or best form and identify the gaps...now lets get to work.