To: Don Hurst who wrote (21671 ) 7/3/2003 8:03:37 PM From: jttmab Respond to of 93284 ........not sure that the USA is really in the "world". Point made. Sadly. I came back from vacation and I had an e-mail from an American that I've been helping from time to time on some research she's doing. Just helpful pointers, try this, look here, try this, here's a phone number, etc...embedded in the e-mail was a "chatty" question...Do they celebrate the 4th of July in England and if so, do they celebrate it the same way we do in the US? ...It's a hard question to answer without being insulting. Problem with the Liberians is that while they have oil, it's not enough to please Cheney. Plus we don't really need to have operating bases in Liberia. We needed to move US troops out of Saudi Arabia and had to have an alternate place to put them. Amsterdam was great. There was some conservative on this thread [No need to mention Lazarus by name], that coughed up this BS op ed piece that said Amsterdam was a crumbling European city....talk about "off the mark". Budapest was good. I spent most of the time in Old Budapest, which is built up for touristos. We took a walk down the hill, into a local neighborhood that wasn't very exciting, but when I rented a car to take a drive around Budapest, it was very impressive. Modern, lively, [good looking women <s>], etc.. Another pre-conceived notion of eastern European inadequacies dashed on the rocks. I was surprised at how many people spoke English in Budapest. When I got out into the countryside there was little to no English. But I learned enough Hungarian to order one or two coffees or one or two beers, say please and thank you, where's breakfast?, and where's the head?. What else do you need? My pronunciation was good enough to be understood, yet bad enough to make the Hungarians smile. It was a successful trip. I'd do Budapest again. The only European city that I don't have an interest in doing a second time is London; there's just too many people in London. jttmab