To: epicure who wrote (2578 ) 6/28/2003 4:45:34 PM From: Raymond Duray Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20773 X, Re: People are too stupid, and much too talkative, and greedy, for conspiracies to work out very well. We'll have to agree to disagree. I recall the example of the latest tax cut, where the implications of the final language of the bill were ferreted out a few days later and we found out that the much touted child tax credit simply won't be available to the working poor. That was a conspiracy by Tom Delay, Mitch McConnell, Frist and the White House to screw the little people behind their backs. Stupidity had nothing to do with it. This was highly intelligent and devious work of some very malign men who are determined to screw the average American. Same is true with enviro policy, where you have pollution abatement policies weakened in a deviously named "Clean Skies" initiative. My point is that the Bushies are highly intelligent, very devious and decidedly working in a conspiratorial fashion for the advantage of a tiny elite at the expense of the masses. You may not agree that PNAC, AEI, ALEC, Americans for Tax Justice, AIPAC, JINSA and other neo-con/right wing groups are conspiracies, but they certainly do operate in a fashion that is conspiratorial. Just read the newswires on Friday evenings after all the reporters have taken their weekend leave. That's when we are told about the latest Executive Orders, EPA changes and various other regulatory changes that are meant to eventually tear down the entire fabric of public accountability and social spending by the government. It's not a secret, but this stuff never makes the news, thus the average American is left conveniently blindsided by the Bushies. Unlike you, I don't see "Occam's Razor" at work. I see a consistent pattern to deceive the public. By any means necessary. For purposes the public would not agree to, were they to be informed. A democracy is a system of informed consent. What we have in America today is a system of willful deceit in public policy creation. The opposite of the "democracy and freedoms" that Bush lies to us about being so concerned about. -Ray