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To: Bilow who wrote (103400)	6/29/2003 6:19:58 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 281500

Carl, would you please lay off this sort of stuff [which you seem to be getting hooked on] <Knowing you're an idiot >. Hawkmoon is obviously not an idiot. Even if true, it's not much use in getting into personal insults. It spoils discussions. Apart from being outright rude and bad manners. Mqurice

To: Bilow who wrote (103400)	6/30/2003 1:20:21 AM
From: frankw1900	Respond to of 281500

Hi Carl, Nice to see you're in form: Knowing you're an idiot... You're making a conclusion on limited data. I'm the only one who knows for sure. You dug back to April 2 for this: frankw1900, in response: We're going to find out when it comes to "civilain combattants" in Iraq. ... Not demonstrated in the case of Iraq. #reply-18786163 Well it wasn't demonstrated then, was it? And I'm not sure it's yet demonstrated. We will see, won't we? Most, the vast majority of Iraqis, don't need to be "pacified" anyhow. The Shiites who're are itchy and prone to violence can mostly be negotiated with and the Baathists who're still fighting - well, do you think they're going to get big time support outside the Tikrit area? Depends on how politically adroit the US is in Iraq. ...I'm guessing that you will never admit that the Iraqi war was unwinnable. The objective of the US is to have regime change and achieve a non-fascist, preferably democratic, prosperous Iraq, that's not threatening its neighbours. The US has partially achieved its aims. Have to see how the rest falls out. I think it's a risky enterprise. Like with most important things there's always the risk of failure but it's too soon to conclude, as you do, the US's Iraq venture is a failure. Hey, you had a Republican administration in the White House. And Republican control over the Congress. So who are you going to blame it on this time? Non sequeter. Are you sure you're talking to me? I blame 9/11 on bin Laden, the failed regimes in the ME and Western policies that have propped 'em up for too long.