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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bill Fischofer who wrote (15642)	6/29/2003 9:50:09 AM
From: James Calladine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 28931

The Urantia Book is on the net, has an index and clearly indicates the sections relative to the formation of this world. However, there is nothing I can point you to that would shake you from the point of view: "Water would still have the same formula even if everything is consciousness" How can you say that with CERTAINTY? You just don't know! Implicit in that "point of view" is that the egoic view is correct. The 7th Stage vantage point is that the egoic point of view is ILLUSION (all of it). It is sort of the difference between base 10 mathematics and base 0 mathematics. You can be working in base 10 and not even know (consciously) that base 0 exists. Probably you are going to tell me that there is no such thing as base 0 math! I have to admit in mathematical matters I am close to totally ignorant, and I am trying to suggest something,rather than argue the correctness of something. Namaste! Jim

To: Bill Fischofer who wrote (15642)	6/29/2003 9:43:09 PM
From: Scott Bergquist	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

"Would a Rose, by any other name..." Jim, at some point, you have to allow that what can be verified as "the same" (i.e. water, as we know and love and need) atomic formula (i.e. H2O) is water, by independent scientific methods. It is found in the same throughout the universe, and probably through all other universes. Instead of the 2000+ page House of Sand "Urantia" you recommend, I suggest you read the Scientific American article on multiple universes. \THAT will give you much much to chew on. Not to be =too= critical of your person, Jim, but you need to allow some basic Science that this humankind WORLD agrees upon, into your thinking. Airplanes don't just fly on Tuesdays, remain unflyable on Wednesdays, and all gather on the Moon on Saturdays, only because you yourself CONCEIVE it is possible. There are some things, basic science, that cannot be countermanded by an assemblage of vague and broad definitions that no one else understands.