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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (103453)	6/29/2003 4:01:43 PM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

I don't think there are ever going to be a significant number of body bags coming home, at least nowhere near the 200/week for years on end of the Viet Nam era. Cost is another thing; the round numbers I recall reading are $1billion / month in Afghanistan and $1billion / week in Iraq. That's probably not sustainable, and there's no way oil's going to pay for it either. I understand the preferred alternative payment option among true believers is tax cuts for rich people. Plus, my understanding is that those figures are for military operations alone, which don't really accomplish much by themselves; development aid is another issue and, worldwide, economic development has proven to be a pretty tough nut to crack even in the absence of overt hostilities. I'm sure the PNAC people have it all figured out, though. That's their nature.

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (103453)	6/29/2003 4:44:35 PM
From: Crimson Ghost	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

You may be right that only the death of a large number of American soldiers will change US foreign policy. That was certainly the case during the Vietnam War. But an economic crisis such as a dollar collapse that lowers living standards at home could also trigger such a change. Much better the latter than the former. Every human life is precious and in less than 100 years all involved in the current conflict will be dead FOREVER.

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (103453)	6/29/2003 7:57:00 PM
From: Rascal	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

<...sadly, it'll probably work good in '04 too...> Jacob, we always forget that it was Nader who made Bush President not the Supreme Court. Nader and his followers can't still believe that it doesn't matter whether a Democrat or Republican is President. Remember, Bush got 500,000 less popular votes than GOre. And that when people thought he was moderate and probably a nice guy. For many voting citizens Bush will be their SECOND choice in '04. ANYBODY ELSE will be their first!. One thing pResident Bush offers us in '04 is the precise information needed to present a clear choice. No more blurring with the moderates. The extreme machine of Delay, CHeney, Ashcroft, Rumsfeld and BUsh is painting a big bullseye on their rumps with the indelible paint of lies, deception and deceit. Let the games begin. Rascal@ firetheliar.com