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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ed Huang who wrote (1129)	6/29/2003 4:31:01 PM
From: rrufff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

These are all great debating points. However, Israel is surrounded by lands many, many times its own and subjected to decades of tyranical leaders, leaders who treat their own people terribly. These leaders call for the extermination of Israel and have for decades. The debate is easy behind a computer in a relatively safe environment I agree and have every hope that this latest "road map" will lead to peace, that peace will lead to trust and ability to understand each other. This thread seems populated with people who only see Israel as an aggressor, a point which is quite ironic given the geography and real history of the area. Israel would never have attacked its neighbors if it had been left in peace. The tyrants of the area never wished to leave Israel in peace because it would affect the bases of their power and their need to focus their peoples on Israel rather than the lack of democracy and basic living standards in their own nations. The Arab nation that collectively has the wealthiest per capita people has not shared that wealth with its own people. Arafat is only a tiny example of billions diverted from a people that sorely needs it.

To: Ed Huang who wrote (1129)	6/30/2003 4:21:56 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

Re: Trying hard to grasp power and abuse it out of greed and egoism is very dangerous to the others.... Ever heard of Lord Moyne? The early days of Judeofascist terrorism: egy.com Excerpt: Confronted with irrefutable evidence neither assassin could deny his guilt. Nevertheless, they argued their case with a logic known only to diehard fanatics: they were carrying out orders from a Zionist terror network operating inside British Mandated Palestine. By finishing off Moyne they were sending a message directly to the highest echelons of the British Foreign Office: "Stop interfering with Jewish immigration into Palestine, or else..." The two assassins, Eliahou Bet-Zouri and Eliahou Al Hakim, both in their early twenties, were members of the Stern Gang then under the control of Yitzhak Shamir--the same man who would later became Prime Minister of the new state of Israel. They received capital punishment and were subsequently hanged at the insistence of the British government. The Eliahous were buried in an empty corner of the Jewish Cemetery in Bassateen south east of Cairo. In the days immediately following Lord Moyne's killing, the Eliahous were publicly condemned and in the most categorical terms by mainstream Jewish communities. Ha'aretz, the leading pre-Israel daily described the double-murder as "One of the worse abominations since Zionism began," while the leader of World Zionism, Chaim Weizmann, (afterwards Israel's first president) described the killings as "A far more severe shock and more numbing than that of the death of my own son." In his letter to Churchill, Weizmann wrote "I can hardly find words adequate to express the deep moral indignation and horror which I feel. I know that these feelings are shared by Jewry throughout the world." [...] During a 1975 Egypt-Israel prisoner exchange, President Anwar Al Sadat released the bodies of Eliahou Al Hakim and Eliahou Bet-Zouri to the Israeli government at the latter's request. No sooner had they arrived when the then-Prime Minister, a young general called Yitzhak Rabin, personally gave Moyne's assassins a military funeral of the type usually reserved for men of distinguished valor. Moreover, the Eliahous were buried at Mount Herzl in an area reserved for the nation's eminent citizens. The Hassan Sabry Street terrorists had become champions in the eyes of the Israeli public. [...] __________________________