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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (70629)	7/1/2003 12:07:54 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

"There are not any unknowns or I would have supplied them." Well, for example I would probably know the distance and location of the supplies according to the map. I would know if the location was reasonably accessible to my daughter and me. I might know why the handcuffed man was being detained. You said that I am dying. Will the food cache save me or is it only a choice between my daughter and the other man? How much time do I have to make my decision? Am I able to visit this other man and talk to him? Would someone have to drive to the food cache or is it close by? What would be the fate of the cuffed man if he survives? Can I assume that my daughter is a normal healthy child who would be fine if she survives? The underlying moral principle is to have a positive regard for my own well being and the well being of others. The presumption is that survival is in everyone’s best interests. However you threw a question into that when you said one person is cuffed. Is he a heinous criminal that was caught in the midst of a killing spree? In this case you are asking me to make a forced choice that will clearly not be in everyone’s best interests (survival). If I were making this decision, I would need more to go on and if I were present at the scene, I think I would have it. So keeping this underlying principle in mind, I would have to consider other factors. Then I would probably also be weighing other moral principles (although I am not sure which ones) along with the underlying principle. What is the "moral principle" that tells you what to do without it being a subjective opinionated judgment. Ultimately, I don’t think I can complete this task without being “subjective and opinionated.” We don’t live and operate purely in the realm of ideals. We live in the world and use the realm of ideals as a reference for direction. ”If the decision of life and death is NOT a MORAL decision… Well, we were using morality in the sense of a system of standards codifying rights/wrongs or goods/bads, right? I do not consider death to necessarily be a bad thing any more than I consider someone’s continuity necessarily a good thing. So, that seems to be not as clear of a point between us as you imply. ”So what could you do in the example given that both of us could agree on as an absolute principle uncontaminated by our opinions and feelings?” I don’t think I can give such an example, even hypothetically since I don’t think the world operates that way. ”(I'm the guy in the Holy Robes)” Ah…that explains a lot. You finally went off the deep end. You are probably in cuffs because you went into a temple of some sort, in disguise, and started murdering zealots…