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To: Ilaine who wrote (35580)	7/1/2003 11:20:47 AM
From: RealMuLan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

>>Let me guess that Zhang Yi-mou speaks Mandarin as it is spoken by the educated class in Beijing? << Zhang Yi-Mou speaks Mandarin as a couple of millions of people who have been born and grown up in Beijing speak, no more and no less. The dif. bet. educated or not can only be told by the wording, the adjectives, or sometimes by intonation, etc., not by pronunciation. Most of Chinese from Southern part of the country cannot separate Si from Shi (maybe sort of like here in the US a lot of southerners cannot pronounce "Oil" correctly), and that is why we called it "Southern accent". For any language, there has to have a standard pronunciation, anything differ from it is called "accent".

To: Ilaine who wrote (35580)	7/1/2003 6:30:29 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

In America, the least noticable accent is the one that television news reporters and screen accents use. Yeah they almost sound like southern Ontarians. The differences are so minuscule... upscale Bostonian. (Downscale Bostonian is a different matter.) I know some folks from Montreal (Italian) with relatives in Boston. They have a funny story about accents and visiting. Seems Bostonians recounted the story of another relative that had a virus but fought it.. The Montrealers of course heard it as She had a virus but she farted, and couldn't stop laughing at the hosts.. apologies to all Bostonians... And speaking of Boston even here in Canada we have some very strong English variants especially on the east coast. Montrealers even are slightly different from Torontonians as there is some francisization (sp?) I'm glad you didn't mention how wonderful 'Parisian' french is, 'cause it isn't IMO, just another slang ;o)