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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (35630)7/2/2003 2:06:48 AM
From: Step1  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Maurice, this is what you meant but the way you wrote it was not especially clear on that point:

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To:Jay Chen who wrote (35554)
From: Maurice Winn
Tuesday, Jul 1, 2003 3:49 AM
View Replies (3) | Respond to of 35635

Jay, this shows that English is more efficient as a language. < Mandarin speakers use more areas of their brains
than people who speak English, scientists said on Monday, in a finding that provides new insight into how the
brain processes language.>

People using Mandarin have to run their brains flat out to figure out what the heck is going on.

That means that Mandarin is a dying language. The Japanese ditched it centuries ago in favour of hiragana [a
phonetic language] and katakana [to handle foreign words].
<<<

certainly the word language can be understood to be both spoken and written but I suppose the word that threw me off here was the added "phonetic", by which I took it that you meant "spoken".

By the way, even in spoken Japanese, the Kanji is a back up that helps clear misunderstanding as people mimic writing on the palm of their hands . The absence of tones create an amazing amount of homonyms that need to be distinguished through writing...

Otherwise basic spoken Japanese is really the most logical language I have encountered so far. Precise yet simple and pronunciation is easy.

step1



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (35630)7/2/2003 2:55:55 PM
From: RealMuLan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
>>Chinese is all kanji. Lately simplified and now heading for pinyin to modernize it like romanji in Japanese.<<

Maurice, It is called "HanZi", not kanji<g>

No, Pinyin for Chinese is just as a helping tool for pronunciation. To pinyinize Chinese is only a pipe dream, will not be realized. It will never be a replacement of Chinese character. Too much essence of Chinese culture lays in the Chinese character.

Actually, I read that a British scholar claimed computer language in 21st century should be Chinese, since Chinese are the most effective language. One character can have multiple uses. One would only need to learn 1,000 or so Chinese Characters to deal with everyday life. by comparison, one has to learn 3,000 or so English words, or 5,000 French words to deal with every day life.

>>Japanese still uses heaps of kanji, but heavily supplements with hiragana, a rational phonetic system, with none of the English style exceptions. <<

80% of Japanese before WWII were Chinese character. Their language reform only started after WWII. Now I watch some older Japanese movies shot in late 50s or earlier, I can recognize 80% of them since they are just Chinese.