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To: energyplay who wrote (35671)	7/3/2003 3:05:41 AM
From: marcos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Sounds like a failure of schools, yes .... we've lost some kind of respect for education, things come too easy for kids, same in Canada, it's disgusting ..... there are cultures famed for having far more respect - chinese, japanese, jews ... most all europeans learn english now as a matter of course, on the second-language front, and talking to a few young people from there over the years, i get the idea they're better educated, not sure if that extends to the sciences or anything [because i don't ... extend to the sciences, i mean] Me, i would make two languages mandatory as a bare minimum .... and purely honey not vinagre of course, none of this rough stuff, i would say kid, look here we've got us a real nifty and fun grade one and you'll find it useful if you really want to grow up to be a noocular physticist like you say, so you demonstrate an adequate kindergarten level of your two (2) chosen languages, and you're in This is anywhere in the world, two tongues minimum i would make part and parcel of an education system, it makes sense for a number of weighty reasons ... and obviously in North America english is going to be one of them, that too makes sense .... then subject to demand and availability and practicality, a range of options as to the second, or third if the student is up to it .... and full courses in them too, none of this two or three hours of classes per week - a full range of subjects taught in the second language ... and when you give a bilingual test, it's not a choice to the student of the one easier to him, no way, because that is selective unilingualism at the cop-out option of the student .... no, on at least a few questions i would ask the biology or whatever question in one language, and ask for the answer in another It makes good sense in the US to have your school boards make english part of the basic curriculum ... and probably in wide areas, to make spanish basic as well ... in others, maybe demand/practicality would run to others ... but always two as a base It is quite another thing, to have the federal government, or even a state, dictate that one language only shall henceforth be 'official' .... think what that means - it is not a promotion of education, it is the exact opposite, a prohibition of wider horizons ... it is a banning of spanish, and will be perceived as such Just not the way to go about it, compulsion is not necessary ... true enough, a lot of hispanos could use a wake-up call to respect for education, they love their kids but don't understand how far they could go if they had a chance .... many are coming from quite indigenous situations, just following the work, don't know much beyond what they can see .... for the most part there is no cultural block to learning though, as it is said there is among US blacks, to whom an attraction to education can be viewed negatively as an attempt to 'act white' ... it's not like that .... starting to ramble aren't i, well it's late ... cheers