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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Glenn Petersen who wrote (422354)	7/3/2003 12:39:49 AM
From: CYBERKEN	Respond to of 769667

They certainly get pensions for their service. They do not ALWAYS deserve points...

To: Glenn Petersen who wrote (422354)	7/3/2003 12:46:40 AM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Bush has based his entire presidency on military strength. But yet he has not won in Iraq, his "crowning achievement", and has no combat veterans except Powell in his leadership. And Powell doesn't even agree with him half the time. Wesley clark exposes Bush's clay feet on military issues better than anyone so far. But he wont be the last big general to come out questioning Bush's commander in chief status. And of course there's Silver Star winner John Kerry to pull the feet out from under the Bush statue. It's very top heavy and will fall once the clay feet go.

To: Glenn Petersen who wrote (422354)	7/3/2003 2:23:01 AM
From: Skywatcher	Respond to of 769667

They act like Guerillas They smell like Guerillas They attack like Guerillas They kill like Guerillas but according to Rummie.... THEY ARE NOT GUERILLAS They Act Like Guerrillas The Los Angeles Times Wednesday 02 July 2003 EDITOR’S NOTE: The following editorial describes the number of American casualties in Iraq as being “nearly two dozen”. In fact, the official number is almost 70 American soldiers killed. - wrp Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's attempt to blame looters, criminals and Saddam Hussein loyalists — rather than "guerrillas" — for attacks in Iraq on U.S. soldiers just won't wash. Instead, the killings of nearly two dozen U.S. troops since May 1, when President Bush declared major combat over, bear the marks of classic guerrilla operations: small-scale, limited attacks by irregulars against orthodox civil and military forces. U.S. soldiers in the field — confronting increasingly angry Iraqis and with casualties mounting — don't shy away from calling the killers guerrillas. Two Baghdad ambushes wounded six U.S. soldiers Tuesday. In Fallouja, a stronghold of pro-Hussein sentiment, an explosion in a mosque compound that killed 10 Iraqis was blamed on Americans, not on the more likely culprit: weapons or bombs stored there. In February, weeks before combat began, Gen. Eric K. Shinseki, the Army chief of staff, told the Senate that postwar Iraqi peacekeeping and humanitarian operations probably would require about 200,000 troops. Rumsfeld disputed the figure, and his deputy, Paul D. Wolfowitz, called it "wildly inaccurate." Today, the Pentagon has about 150,000 troops deployed in Iraq; Britain has about 12,000. Shinseki, who retired in June and was often at loggerheads with Rumsfeld, appears prescient. That's unsurprising given Shinseki's earlier command of NATO's Bosnian peacekeeping force. But will Bush administration officials, having snubbed Shinseki and others in the Pentagon, listen now to the generals who have been ordered to determine if more U.S. troops are needed in Iraq? Rumsfeld said Washington had asked other nations for help and many had responded. But their numbers are small. The U.S. should seek NATO help. France and Germany, key members, have provided peacekeepers for Afghanistan and supported the U.S. war on terror. It's time for both sides to move past their earlier disputes at the United Nations over Iraq policy. Rumsfeld could help by dropping his "old Europe / new Europe" line, which he repeated as recently as three weeks ago. It's as silly as his claim Monday that what's happening now in Iraq is similar to the untidy formation of the American democracy after the Revolutionary War. Iraq's civilian administrator, L. Paul Bremer III, is traveling the country and assuring residents that the U.S. will stay as long as needed. That's reassuring, and so is his recognition that other nations must provide money for Iraq's reconstruction. Sens. Charles Hagel (R-Neb.) and Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.) recently returned from an Iraq visit and urged the administration to talk with the allies about help, fast. That conversation makes more sense than the chatter coming from the administration now. CC