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To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (4863)8/16/2003 2:52:43 AM
From: Jeffrey S. Mitchell  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12465
 
Re: 7/1/03-8/15/03 - [UCSY/ELGT] Electric & Gas Technology, Inc. Will Use Legal Action Against Companies Infringing Upon WATERMAKER(TM) Patents; Electric & Gas Technology, Inc. Files a $60 Million U.S. Patent And Infringement Lawsuit; Universal Communication Systems, Inc. And Subsidiary, AirWater Corporation, Refute Claims Made by Electric And Gas Technology, Inc., And Atmospheric Water Technologies, Inc.; Universal Communication Systems, Inc. & Subsidiary, AirWater Corp., File Suit Against Electric & Gas Technologies Inc., Atmospheric Water Technology Inc., & Dan Zimmerman For $118 Million

Press Release Source: Electric & Gas Technology, Inc.

Electric & Gas Technology, Inc. Will Use Legal Action Against Companies Infringing Upon WATERMAKER(TM) Patents

Tuesday July 1, 6:49 pm ET

DALLAS, July 1 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- ELGT will pursue legal action against companies that have allegedly infringed upon subsidiary Atmospheric Water Technology's Watermaker patents.

"We will be using the strength of the company and all of our resources to defend our patents," says S. Mort Zimmerman, Board Chairman of ELTG. He continues, "Our patents on the Watermaker technology are solid and companies are trying to take advantage of our technology. Legal action will be taken with multiple companies and each one will be held liable for promoting technology that they do not own."

According to Dan Zimmerman, President of ELGT, "This latest patent infringement will have a domino effect in the industry." Zimmerman says, "There are distributors, government officials, and major corporations that have been misled by these companies promoting a technology they do not own. When the legal battles are over customers that have purchased systems are going to be left exposed for working with companies who have infringed on products that will not be supported or sold again." Zimmerman continues, "These companies' customers have made huge investments and will be hurt because they purchased a technology from a company who infringed on ELGT's patents. We are willing to fight this patent infringement to the very end."

The Watermaker is a technology that captures the humidity from the atmosphere to produce purified drinking water. This system can provide from five gallons per day to over 1,000,000 gallons per day.

WATERMAKER(TM) is a unique electronic system that produces clean water without connection to any source of water other than that suspended as vapor in the atmosphere. The ELGT Watermaker technology originated through the issuance and receipt of U.S. Patents in 1981 and 1996, and is further supported through two additional patents pending and copyrights. The scaleable technology produces from 5 to 10,000 gallons of pure water per day. Large metropolitan solutions can produce up to 2,000,000 gallons per day, and when installed with an automatic bottling facility, will produce 3,780,000 two-liter bottles per day, utilizing only electricity. The systems can be fabricated and installed in 90 to 120 days.

Electric & Gas Technology, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: ELGT - News; ELGT) was organized under the laws of the State of Texas on March 18, 1985, to serve as a holding company for several operating subsidiary businesses. Atmospheric Water Technology, Inc. (AWT), a subsidiary of ELGT, was incorporated in June 1997, with the purpose of focusing on opportunities within the water industry. Other ELGT businesses include Reynolds Equipment Company, which provides a broad line of precision instrumentation to the natural gas industry; Hydel, Ltd., a designer and seller of meter sockets and pole line hardware to the electric utility industry; and Logic Metals, Inc., an affiliated manufacturer of precision sheet metal applications.

ELGT owns several U.S. Patents and Copyrights and has two U.S. Patents pending. Through its Research and Development division, headed by ELGT CEO and Chief Engineer, S. Mort Zimmerman, scientific projects relating to ultra purification of drinking water and a system using hydrogen peroxide to generate electric power have been developed. ELGT holds patents relating primarily to its Atmospheric Water Technology, Inc. subsidiary, building products that produce healthy purified drinking water "from the air we breathe."

SAFE HARBOR INVESTMENT UNDER THE PRIVATE SECURITIES LITIGATION REFORM ACT OF 1995.

This press release contains forward-looking information within the meaning of Section 29A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. Forward-looking statements include statements concerning plans, objectives, goals, strategies, future events or performances and underlying assumption and other statements, which are other than statements of historical facts. Certain statements contained herein are forward-looking statements and, accordingly, involve risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results, or outcomes to differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements. The Company's expectations, beliefs and projections are expressed in good faith and are believed by the Company to have a reasonable basis, including without limitations, management's examination of historical operating trends, data contained in the Company's records and other data available from third parties, but there can be no assurance that management's expectations, beliefs or projections will result, or be achieved, or accomplished.

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Electric & Gas Technology, Inc. Files a $60 Million U.S. Patent And Infringement Lawsuit

Thursday August 7, 1:59 pm ET

DALLAS, Aug. 7 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Electric & Gas Technology, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: ELGT - News), subsidiary Atmospheric Water Technology (AWT) and Richard Ehrlich, an individual and scientific inventor, announced today the filing of a United States Federal District Court lawsuit against Universal Communications Systems, Inc. (UCSI) and J.J. Reidy, an individual, as defendants.

The lawsuit is based on acts of fraud and patent infringement relating to AWT ownership of U.S. patents, copyrights, trademarks and filing system, plus publicly disclosed intellectual properties and patent enhancement and improvements which have been violated, by way of infringement and acts of fraud by said defendants.

ELGT advised the current market for Atmospheric Water generating systems patented and invented by both Richard Ehrlich and AWT of Dallas, Texas represent a present $60 billion market.

The lawsuit demands a jury trial and one tenth of one percent of the $60 billion market or a value of $60 million in both actual and punitive damages.

Dan Zimmerman, President of ELGT stated that more than $5 million has already been invested in water from air systems with installations in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Abu Abadi, Dubai, Sri Lanka, Singapore, Indonesia with recent orders from India and potential in Israel where the defendants have allegedly interfered with such multi-million dollar sales potential.

Zimmerman said, "It is truly unfortunate that dishonest and greedy individuals invade the honest business world."

He also advised that three other companies have also infringed on ELGT U.S. patents and copyrights and will soon be litigated.

Electric & Gas Technology, Inc. was organized under the laws of the State of Texas on March 18, 1985, to serve as a holding company for several operating subsidiary businesses. Atmospheric Water Technology, Inc. (AWT), a subsidiary of ELGT, was incorporated in June 1997, with the purpose of focusing on opportunities within the water industry. Other ELGT businesses include Reynolds Equipment Company, which provides a broad line of precision instrumentation to the natural gas industry; Hydel, Ltd., a designer and seller of meter sockets and pole line hardware to the electric utility industry; and Logic Metals, Inc., an affiliated manufacturer of precision sheet metal applications.

ELGT owns several U.S. Patents and Copyrights and two U.S. Patents pending. Through its Research and Development division, headed by ELGT CEO and Chief Engineer, S. Mort Zimmerman, scientific projects relating to ultra purification of drinking water and a system using hydrogen peroxide to generate electric power have been developed. ELGT holds patents relating primarily to its Atmospheric Water Technology, Inc. subsidiary, building products that produce healthy purified drinking water "from the air we breathe."

SAFE HARBOR INVESTMENT UNDER THE PRIVATE SECURITIES LITIGATION REFORM ACT OF 1995.

This press release contains forward-looking information within the meaning of Section 29A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. Forward-looking statements include statements concerning plans, objectives, goals, strategies, future events or performances and underlying assumption and other statements, which are other than statements of historical facts. Certain statements contained herein are forward-looking statements and, accordingly, involve risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results, or outcomes to differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements. The Company's expectations, beliefs and projections are expressed in good faith and are believed by the Company to have a reasonable basis, including without limitations, management's examination of historical operating trends, data contained in the Company's records and other data available from third parties, but there can be no assurance that management's expectations, beliefs or projections will result, or be achieved, or accomplished.

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Press Release Source: Universal Communications Systems Inc.

Universal Communication Systems, Inc. And Subsidiary, AirWater Corporation, Refute Claims Made by Electric And Gas Technology, Inc., And Atmospheric Water Technologies, Inc.

Friday August 8, 11:22 am ET

Company Will Seek Damages of $100 Million Relating To Patent Infringement, And Tortuous Interference In Business Affairs

MIAMI, Aug. 8 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Universal Communications Systems, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: UCSY - News) company chairman Michael J. Zwebner issued the following statement today:
"Yesterday, a press release was issued by Electric and Gas Technologies, Inc., (OTC Bulletin Board: ELGT - News) claiming patent infringement etc. by our company. The press release made reference to a lawsuit allegedly filed in Texas. We have not seen, nor have we been served by any lawsuit or complaint. This is outrageous behavior, and clearly and maliciously designed to attempt to intimidate us and to cause irreparable damage to our company, its business, officers, directors, employees and its reputation. Our company has purchased the legitimate and verified patents and worldwide rights to the Air-to-Water concept and technology. Our patents are valid and real and we fully intend to develop the business and will now take action against all parties that infringe our patent rights.

"Our patent attorneys, the Law Offices of Brian M. Dingman of Framingham, MA, had already notified Mr. Mort Zimmerman, the then chairman and President of Electric and Gas Technology, Inc., as long ago as April 19, 1996, that he and his company were in direct infringement of Mr. Reidy's, the original inventor and holder of (now AirWater Corporation/ UCSY) patents, in particular US Patent Number 5,203,989. A true copy of this Legal Letter sent from the attorneys to Mr. Morton Zimmerman, at Electric and Gas Technology, Inc., establishing the infringement, and advising a cease and desist notification, will be published today on our company's web site."

Mr. Zwebner went on to comment: "Our actions will be based on acts of patent infringement, relating to Air Water Corporation's legal ownership of valid U.S. patents, copyrights, and trademarks as well as disclosed intellectual properties and patent enhancements and improvements which have been grossly violated, by way of infringement by the defendants. We are not going to allow this outrageous behavior and their totally frivolous lawsuit to distract us from our declared company's ongoing business plans. We will deal with this and move on."

About Universal Communication Systems Inc.
For further detailed information, visit our web address: www.ucsy.com

AirWater Corporation
For further information, visit our web address: www.airwatercorp.com

Safe Harbor:

Caution Concerning Forward-Looking Statements by Universal Communication Systems, Inc.

This document includes certain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are based on management's current expectations or beliefs, and are subject to uncertainty and changes in circumstances. Actual results may vary materially from those expressed or implied by the statements herein due to changes in economic, business, competitive, technological and/or regulatory factors, and factors affecting the integration of the businesses of Universal Communication Systems, Inc. More detailed information about these factors may be found in filings by Universal Communication Systems, Inc. with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including their most recent annual reports on Form 10-KSB and quarterly reports on Form 10-QSB. Universal Communication Systems, Inc. is under no obligation to, and expressly disclaim any such obligation to, update or alter their forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise.

Contact:
Universal Communication Systems, Inc., Miami
Rolando Sablon, 305/672-6344
Company web address: ucsy.com
For further information email us at: info@ucsy.com

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Press Release Source: Universal Communication Systems, Inc.

CORRECTING and REPLACING Universal Communication Systems, Inc. & Subsidiary, AirWater Corp., File Suit Against Electric & Gas Technologies Inc., Atmospheric Water Technology Inc., & Dan Zimmerman For $118 Million

Friday August 15, 1:30 pm ET

MIAMI--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 15, 2003--In BW5222, (FL-UNIV-COMM-SYSTEMS) File Suit Against Electric & Gas Technologies Inc., Atmospheric Water Technology Inc., & Dan Zimmerman For $118 Million, first graph, fourth line should read xxx (OTCBB:ELGT - News; sted ELGT). The corrected release reads:
UNIVERSAL COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS, INC. & SUBSIDIARY, AIRWATER CORP., FILE SUIT AGAINST ELECTRIC & GAS TECHNOLOGIES INC., ATMOSPHERIC WATER TECHNOLOGY INC., & DAN ZIMMERMAN FOR $118 MILLION

Complaint is for Defamation and the Defendants' Use of the Internet to Disseminate False, Misleading and Defamatory Statements on a Worldwide Basis

Universal Communication Systems, Inc. (OTCBB:UCSY - News) and subsidiary, AirWater Corporation, today filed suit in Miami's Federal District Court for the Southern District of Florida against Electric & Gas Technologies Inc., (OTCBB:ELGT - News) Atmospheric Water Technology, Inc. and Dan Zimmerman for $118 million.

Company chairman Michael J. Zwebner stated: "The outrageous and uncalled for public defamatory statements made last week by the defendants, as alleged in the suit, are totally and absolutely unacceptable. We will take whatever legal action necessary to defend our company's good name and reputation, as well as our business, employees and growing list of world wide customers and contacts. This malicious and deliberate behavior will be held accountable and be dealt with by the courts."

About Universal Communication Systems, Inc.

For more information see the company's web site ucsy.com

About AirWater Corporation

For more information see the company's web site airwatercorp.com

Safe Harbor: Caution Concerning Forward-Looking Statements by Universal Communication Systems, Inc.

This document includes certain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are based on management's current expectations or beliefs, and are subject to uncertainty and changes in circumstances. Actual results may vary materially from those expressed or implied by the statements herein due to changes in economic, business, competitive, technological and/or regulatory factors, and factors affecting the integration of the businesses of Universal Communication Systems, Inc. More detailed information about these factors may be found in filings by Universal Communication Systems, Inc. with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including their most recent annual reports on Form 10-KSB and quarterly reports on Form 10-QSB. Universal Communication Systems, Inc. is under no obligation to, and expressly disclaim any such obligation to, update or alter their forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise.

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Contact:
Universal Communication Systems, Inc., Miami
Rolando Sablon, 305/672-6344
Company web address: ucsy.com
or
For further information email us at:
info@ucsy.com

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Source: Universal Communication Systems, Inc.

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To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (4863)8/22/2003 2:12:49 AM
From: Jeffrey S. Mitchell  Respond to of 12465
 
Re: 8/20/03 - [TVCP/UCSY/Zwebner] OTCForums.com: Zwebner Admits to Committing a Felony, the use of the FBI's Carnivore System to intercept interstate emails and other correspondence

Zwebner Admits to Committing a Felony, the use of the FBI's Carnivore System

to intercept interstate emails and other correspondence:



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"The use of the Carnivore system by the FBI is subject to intense oversight from internal FBI controls, the U. S. Department of Justice (both at a Headquarters level and at a U.S. Attorney's Office level), and by the Court. There are significant penalties for misuse of the tool, including exclusion of evidence, as well as criminal and civil penalties. The system is not susceptible to abuse because it requires expertise to install and operate, and such operations are conducted, as required in the court orders, with close cooperation with the ISPs."

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By: MICHAELJ123
27 Feb 2003, 12:34 PM EST Msg. 8825 of 8897

and all...

the CARNIVORE system is reporting lots of new emails and lots of chatter... from "the fool" to his cohorts...

more to come soon...

wink..wink..or in his case is it wank wank...??

I guess everyone can play stupid games...??


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By: MICHAELJ123
19 Dec 2002, 08:48 PM EST
Msg. 6426 of 19463
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worm fool

of fool, in reply to your question,

yes, they were funding it, and the question is who were they? answer is

Michael Zwebner and his friends and associates.
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now what...

4 more government agencies to be called asap...
cut and paste.... snort snort...h i g h ... oooooo !

Dino, quick, give me some more cash, I need to go buy some
........ I need to feel good... Zwebner is attacking me !

I need some help here, this motherf---er is bashing me !
Holy mother of G-D... the worm research department is short of ....... snorting materials.,... help we are running out of snort materials, oh thank you thank you thank you, call Julles Mitchell, all has now been identified...how are we going to cut and paste and snort.....ITS TIME TO GO AFTER THIS GUY....YOU JUST WONT BELIEVE THIS ONE...I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF SOMEONE WOULD STRAIGHTEN THIS FU--ER OUT.
... VERY SCARY....

oh, and CARNIVORE askes... who is TWhee24778@aol.com
====================

someone new ??

answer me fool..
Michael

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By: MICHAELJ123
18 Dec 2002, 10:46 AM EST Msg. 6225 of 6251

worm /fool

DEATH THREATS....

EXPLAIN THIS, - NO DONT DO IT HERE, YOU WILL SHORTLY HAVE TO EXPALIN IT
TO
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT... - I PROMISE..!

QUOTE <<<
EMAIL FROM ROVERTO VILLASENOR TO SELECT RECIPIENTS...

Re: Death Threats - this is what I mean..
Sunday, September 29, 2002 1:56 PM

Will,

You are wrong.

A dream come true would be scu and zwebner in jail in California, where
some
of the "boys" can be "real close" to both of them.....the "boys" being
La
Eme.

regards,

rv
UNQUOTE <<<<<<<<<<

And I wonder WHY the recipients didnt report this to the
authorities....is
there a conspiracy to arrange "death" ?

I also question why some or any of the recipients didnt call me and tell me
this "death threat".

Worm/ fool, sending a death threat by email across state lines has
severe
conotations... would you like me to print the laws for you, or perhaps
you
can explain your "Death" plans to the police... YES, they will come knocking
at your door... I PROMISE !

Michael

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Maybe one of worm06's email buddies forwards his posts to zwebner and calls himself (((CARNIVORE))))?

(JMO)

LOL
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By: MICHAELJ123
17 Dec 2002, 09:56 PM EST Msg. 168150 of 168166
(This msg. is a reply to 168113 by shadowfax8x.)
shadow

first, go on a diet... its slowing you up..

trading records,?"" I already know who / how / where he got them from...
but, the real issue is that THERE IS NOTHING ILLEGAL OR BAD OR WRONG
THERE... otherwise he would be posting new crimes, new investigations, new
law enforcement offices investigating, more cut and paste, etc etc.....

their day will cvome too... you see, the documents were sealed in court by
the judge, and it was forbidden for the records to be released or
publicized. well time will tell, remember

THE POSTINGS ARE THE STRONGEST EVIDENCE OF ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES, AND THE MORE
HE POSTS, THE BIGGER THE OFFENSE.
TIME... JUST TIME...

AND dont forget CARNIVORE, so inter-poster communications are available for
all to read.... IN GOOD TIME...

Michael
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I think John_Quinlan was a great poster..I made a ton of money trading TVCP on his advise...no odds here

Good Luck
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By: MICHAELJ123
15 Dec 2002, 12:31 PM EST Msg. 5866 of 5907

roberto...

remember this email.....(((oh CARNIVORE))))

QUOTE >>>>>

It looks like scu, zwebner and brad driesen are at odds. Could it be the the
law has finally caught up to Brad Driesen (aka John_Quinlan et al)?

Are Zwebner/scu trying to separate themselves from the Driesen
investigation?

or is scu just simply at odds with Zwebner....

anyway....all this is good news.

rv
UNQUOTE >>>>>

Roberto,,, please its so confusing... what is happening here ?
Is there an investigation by the law on Brad Dreisen ?
What is happening there ?
Is SCU upsent with me?
Is SCU upset with Brad,?
or is SCU upset with the LAW ?

and Is SCU upset with ME, How can that be if I AM SUPPOSED TO BE SCU...
(according to YOU) You have posted that SO many times.....

ITS ALL SO CONFUSING...?!?!?

PLEASE HELP US SHAREHOLDERS UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WERE THINKING OR SCHEMING
WHEN YOU SENT OUT THE EMAIL TO YOUR LONG LIST OF ''SPECIAL RECIPIENTS''

MAKE UP YOUR MIND, IS SCU ME, OR NOT.?

PLEASE CLARIFY THIS FOR ALL OF US.... ITS JUST TOO MUCH FOR US SIMPLE FOLK
TO UNDERSTAND...

Michael Zwebner


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Or the people/person you emailed, forwarded it to Zwebner..The JDAF hates you now, so maybe it was on of them...?

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By: MICHAELJ123
15 Dec 2002, 05:25 PM EST Msg. 5969 of 5972
(This msg. is a reply to 5961 by chohenhous.)

carla

sanana... whats the difference... you know what i mean.

well, the papers are here, and one day i hope you contact me arrange
collection....

btw, there are no "you boys" ... and which cronies are u referring to... I
dont really understand the message...
perhaps its the long day, perhaps its the CARNIVORE effect..

whatever...

call me sometime, Ill be here waiting..

Best to you, as always..

Michael


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Zwebner posts a copy of an intercepted email by the_worm06

By: MICHAELJ123
17 Dec 2002, 10:57 PM EST Msg. 6167 of 6174

Extremely Confidential

to aLL....

A RECENT POST BY WORMIE...

QUOTE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

FROM; Roberto G. Villasenor, Jr.
DATE; Friday, December 06, 2002 2:23 PM
SUBJECT; Extremely Confidential

It has now been verified privately by "wormcrook" that it was Zwebner that was sending him the emails to post on the Raging Bull boards, pumping UCSY, bashing TVCP, and attacking the_worm06, alias_again and others. The email
used was scu8452@aol.com. This implies that it was Zwebner using the 72mesa alias on some, but not all, of the posts by 72mesa.

Please keep confidential for they (Zwebner and scu) are threatening wormcrook and his wife to keep quiet.

again...for your eyes only.
rv

UNQUOTE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

WORM / FOOL, what were you drinking... tequila.. or COCA cola...

oh the CARNIVORE........ we love you so....

Michael


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So I guess you are off the "DEATH THREAT" Kick?
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By: MICHAELJ123
17 Dec 2002, 11:38 PM EST Msg. 6188 of 6194
(This msg. is a reply to 6186 by horswispr.)
horse...

are your for real...??

first of all, who is wormcrook... who is his wife...
as I recall he was "nice" to me on line, why would I threaten him or his wife... ??

I guess its obvious that worm/fool is "HIGH" ,,,
he is having illusions, and believes in his screwed up little world that Zwebner threatens everyone...

Just watch more great self incriminating emails from the archives of Worm... courtesy CARNIVORE....coming to a PC screen near you...
Michael


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By: MICHAELJ123
05 Aug 2003, 07:35 PM EDT
Msg. 18183 of 18187
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cap...

change your attitude, turn sane, stop all the crap posting, identify yourself...

and you and a few others will become enlightened... !

the choice is yours...

and as I told you (all) before,

either way, we (the normal people) win !

mz

ps.. from the Mexican Worm / fool... using his new alias, 65175...you will get nothing... nothing but trouble.. we know all about the emails flying about, CARNIVORE is alive and well and collecting and colating date and info...

slowly slowly... nicely does it !


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By: MICHAELJ123
15 Dec 2002, 11:50 AM EST Msg. 82 of 226

ROBERTO...

when you LOG ON ... CARNIVORE IS THERE
you type... CARNIVORE is there
you speak.. CARNIVORE is there
you fax ... CARNIVORE is there
you mail... CARNIVORE is there

CARNIVORE OH CARNIVORE .... WE LOVE YOU SO !!

AND all your recipients too.... CARNIVORE LOVES THEM TOO. WE SEEK THE TRUTH.... NOW MAYBE, JUST MAYBE WE WILL GET IT!

Michael Zwebner


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By: MICHAELJ123
15 Dec 2002, 11:45 AM EST Msg. 81 of 226

ROBERTO

WE DONT NEED YOUR "THOUGHTS", why ?

beacuse WE HAVE THEM ALL

EMAIL, FAX, PHONE CALLS, MAIL, THOUGHTS ETC ETC...

KEEP GOING...

CARNIVORE... OH CARNIVORE.... WE LOVE YOU SO...!
ALL SUBJECT TO SUBPEONA

Michael Zwebner


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By: MICHAELJ123
15 Dec 2002, 11:42 AM EST Msg. 80 of 226

roberto...

OK, IF THATS WHAT YOU CALL PUMPING.....

I did try to email you to call you, but you made a joke out of it.....

CARNIVORE..OH THE CARNIVORE...ITS SO GOOD...MMMMMMM !

EMAIL, PHONE CALLS, FAX, MAIL, your friends, your work, your job, your computer... oh the computer...CARNIVORE !

ALL SUBJECT TO SUBPEONA.

Michael Zwebner


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"The use of the Carnivore system by the FBI is subject to intense oversight from internal FBI controls, the U. S. Department of Justice (both at a Headquarters level and at a U.S. Attorney's Office level), and by the Court. There are significant penalties for misuse of the tool, including exclusion of evidence, as well as criminal and civil penalties. The system is not susceptible to abuse because it requires expertise to install and operate, and such operations are conducted, as required in the court orders, with close cooperation with the ISPs."


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